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Friday Night TV Round Up


Not much happened here, so not much to say. I believe it's bop_radar that I made the comment to that I thought JC (I think those were her initials) would die, perhaps setting up why Adama distances himself emotionally from the people around him, including his son. Looks like I may be at least half right. :)

Let me again state what an awesome job they did in casting Young Bill Adama. In that scene after he gets into his viper, Nico Cortez totally nails not only EJO's voice, but his steely eyed stare. I was just so impressed with that moment.

Um, that's all I got on this one folks.


I actually feel compelled to analyze this one a little. This episode seemed to be about letting go of the past and moving on and there were some nice parallels between Ronan and Sam's journeys to where they are now.

The scene that had me totally flailing, in the good way, was the one between Sam and Teal'c. I didn't think it was possible for an SGA writer to pack so much awesomeness into about ninety seconds. "Though we may not being leaving with you, SG1 will never be far away." Damn right! And the exchange that had me squeeing for many reasons:

"Undomesticated equines could not keep me away."
"Nice callback ."
"Indeed."


And those tears of Amanda's seemed to be more Amanda than Sam. ::clings to Stargate box set::

So Rodney thought he was going to be the new leader of Atlantis? "It's kinda scary though. You know I'll be making decisions that don't affect just the city but the entire galaxy." I agree with Radek, very, very scary. And let's review Rodney's last decisions. Totally disregarding Elizabeth's desires and implanting her with Replicator nanites. Disobeying John's direct order to not implant Elizabeth with the nanites because it could be very, very bad. Being at least partly responsible for leaving Elizabeth behind *and* in the hands of the enemy and not being able to guarantee she won't end up assisting them. And he really thought they were going to put him in charge? At what point did he go from being just full of himself to being delusional. I also loved (I say sarcastically) that he never even mentioned Elizabeth or showed even the teeniest tiniest sign of remorse or regret at her absence. Unpopular fandom opinion - I am not a Rodney fan.

Joe Flanigan from the very star of the episode was portraying a more subdued John. I didn't think the show would actually address Elizabeth's absence so I gave Joe a huge amount of credit for conveying, silently, John's grief. Color me shocked when we actually got a discussion between John and Sam about the possability of Elizabeth being alive and John wanting to mount a rescue attempt. I also appreciated that we got an acknowledgment of John being past over for command of Atlantis and him being OK with it. I think he was sincere when he said he saw what Elizabeth went through and would happily prefer to avoid all that aggrevation.

It's nice to see that Jason Momoa is getting a shot to do a little acting. Ronan is becoming more than just the muscle. I predicted early on that his friends were working with the Wraith and he was being set up. I also could predict that, by episodes end, Ronan would come to realize who his real family and friends are. Still, there was something touching about hearing him say the words, "They're right here", in response to Sam asking where his friends were, then adding, "Let's go home." It felt like Ronan closed a chapter of his life (which might be forgotten by the writers next week) and finally moved on. And I think Sam didn't play hard ball with him, gave him the opportunity to come to the right decision himself because, as she said earlier, "Walking away might be a lot harder than you think."

Some random observations....

Ronan's new tattoo. I'm way behind on my DC reports (sorry!), but Jason discussed the tattoo at one of the panels. Short version (for now) is he got it during the hiatus without informing the show, they were trying to come up with ways to cover it up - like bandages in the first two eps and there was talk of a large leather arm band - but ultimately they just decided to write it into the show.

John taking credit for the fruit. Hee! Um, but how could Rodney carry citrus? Some of that looked citrus-y.

Atlantis is very pretty at night.


I was a little worried during the first fifteen minutes of FNL. It felt very 'made for TV' to me. Tyra and Landry making jokes on the bridge where they dumped a body? The home care nurse charging in, telling Matt and his grandmother how it's going to be, and announcing she's moving in. Julie acting like a spoiled brat. But then I started seeing signs of the show I know and love.

Will Jason get the use of his hands back? Maybe. Will he walk again? The doctor flat out tells him no. It's totally understandable that Jason wants to believe he will get out of that wheelchair and I absolutely adored the moment where he stopped Tami to tell her how she made him believe in a miracle. It was such a sweet gesture on his part, and given the emotional upheaval Tami is going through, she needed to hear that she can inspire someone. But the show has always been about the little things and moments and I think we're being shown that while Jason will see some improvement, he won't be getting his old life back.

I love how the show can introduce us to new characters, like the science teacher, and we immediately feel as if we know them and care about them. And how even the assholes, such as Antoine, can have a moment of insight, as he does when he asks Eric why he is in a car with him when he has a new baby at home.

I have a hard time believing the science teacher was the only person Tami had to call. I know we haven't seen her hang out with friends, but she must have some. And the poor guy was put in such a precarious situation. He's seeing Tami is suffering from post-partum depression and completely overwhelmed, yet as someone who barely knows her how does he speak up and voice genuine concern for her and the baby's well-being? Come to think of it, it's probably that concern that made Tami reach out to him.

I actually felt sorry for Buddy. Losing his family and his home is his fault, but taking away his great love, the Panthers, seemed like too much. The team was the one thing keeping him focused and going and, to be fair, he's done a hell of a lot to support the team. To kick him to the curb like that is not only cruel, but short sighted.

Like last week, I was pissed at Julie for most of the episode. I kept saying, "Just dump him already", because what she was doing to Matt was just plain hurtful at this point. Then she did break with him and placed the blame on herself (loved that Matt stated he knew it wasn't him :) and through her breakup speech you could tell she's just confused and scared and probably making some bad choices. I'm still trying to figure out why she's attracted to The Swede. He's a lifeguard driving a van that belongs in a scrap heap who hangs out with teenage girls. And he's not hot! Or does someone find him attractive?

Tyra and Landry I have mixed emotions about. Landry's reaction to Tyra's "Be a man" comment was awesome. And when she went over to his house she finally showed us that this has been affecting her as well. What's tearing her up is not that the guy is dead, but that she is glad he's dead (and what does that say about her?) and feels guilty about what this is doing to Landry. Great performance by Adrienne Palicki. However, I'm a bit uneasy that it's this murder that has brought them closer together. I liked the way the relationship was developing before and wanted to see how they would overcome family and social issues to be together. But now there first time having sex is after sharing their feelings about a murder cover up. Again, it felt more TV than real life.

I decided to turn on the repeat of Bionic Woman while I ate dinner tonight. I lasted fifteen minutes before I changed the channel. However, that was long enough to see 'written by David Eick'. O_o HOW can it be that the man who wrote this writes for Battlestar Galactica? When I watch ST:TNG or Carnivale and I see 'Written by Ronald Moore' I see the similarities in the writing between those shows and BSG. But some of the dialogue and plotting in BW is so jaw droppingly bad that I have no clue how David could be writing both shows.
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I look forward to your thoughts. Keep in mind I went in with *very* low expectations. ;)
I saw one thing and spent the rest of the ep squeeing!! Did you see that Sam had brought a picture of Jack with her?!!! Eeeeeeeee!
I didn't! I was IMing with a friend while watching so wasn't paying close attention. I still say they've been a couple since season 8. ;)
I am curious about whether Tami has good friends in Dillon. We saw her spending time with some other women last season, but there was (if I remember correctly) the angle of her being the coach's wife and them wanting to gossip with her about football and such. So maybe there aren't that many people she can call. I also suspect that because she's trying so hard to seem like she's holding it together for Eric that there's a certain extent to which she doesn't want to call on someone she's actually close to; someone she can trust but who is a bit more emotionally distant is safer, I suppose.

Overall, I was less impressed by last night's ep than I was by the premiere. Quite aside from the made for TV movie angle, right now the characters' different plots are not overlapping very much, so we're watching several disconnected storylines. I suspect some of this is intentional, to show fragmentation thematically before (presumably) bringing everyone back together through the course of the season. But it's sort of annoying in the meantime. And Smash!!!! Give my baby something to do, writers!!!!!! He was in that scene with Matt at work and he didn't have any lines or anything!!!
I also suspect that because she's trying so hard to seem like she's holding it together for Eric that there's a certain extent to which she doesn't want to call on someone she's actually close to; someone she can trust but who is a bit more emotionally distant is safer, I suppose.

That's a good point. I do think that Science Teacher Guy would call Eric if he saw Tami getting worse, but right now he's probably feeling it's best to just help her if she asks for it. And I recall he's a little scared of her. ;)

right now the characters' different plots are not overlapping very much, so we're watching several disconnected storylines. I suspect some of this is intentional, to show fragmentation thematically before (presumably) bringing everyone back together through the course of the season. But it's sort of annoying in the meantime.

I, too, felt the disconnected storylines were intentional and representative of how the characters themselves feel. Everyone seems rather lost at the moment. Over the summer, Matt and Julie grew apart, Eric moved to Austin, Tyra withdrew and leaned solely on Landry, Riggins returned to booze and girls, and Lyla turned to religion and one not very accepting by those around her. People followed their own paths and now, with everyone back in school and Eric looking to come home, those paths should all cross once again. If they don't, I'll add it to the list of things I'm not pleased with.
I have no clue how David could be writing both shows.

IIRC, the one ep that credits Eick as a writer was Hero, and we all know how well-done that was. *eyeroll* No doubt he contributes in the writing room, but the rest of them probably carry him along.
the one ep that credits Eick as a writer was Hero, and we all know how well-done that was. *eyeroll*

Excellent point. Yet another case of a promising concept with botched execution.
Hmmm. Now that I'm looking at Battlestarwiki, looks like he has writer credits for Home Part I also (I'm not counting Home Part II because RDM co-wrote that one!). *shrug*
I'm not a big fan of Hero, but in comparison to this week's BW it's fraking Shakespeare. I do agree though, I think he writes better by committee. ;)
I couldn't have been more disappointed with SGA. Carter getting the job makes no sense at all since she's military. Weir was put in position (even the blonde one at stargate command) because she's unaffiliated and a diplomat. I'm sick of all the renaissance festival worlds (I loved SG1 because of the different cultures they visited and all the different art styles they used to convey them, especially early on in the first few seasons). The slow motion captured and then sped up fights were done horribly. And the show is already back on autopilot going into episodes that don't advance the plot in any distinguisable way (and really, the wraith should have starved to death on their own already or have gone back into hybernation, who needs the replicators?)

SGA was fun when it was a lead in for SG1 and BSG, but I'm really not digging having to stay up to 11 to watch it. (/old fart)

I bought the FNL dvds yesterday, $15 was too hard to pass up. I had a hell of a time getting the box open though, they should come with instructions: (yes, it opens like you imagine it will, only it will take a ridiculous amount of force to accomplish this task. so don't worry about ruining the packaging even though it feels like you're going to rip it in half: we glued the disc-insert in to prevent shoplifting -- so sucks to be you).
I had really, really, really low expectations for SGA this week and expected them to drop the ball on so many things that I ended up being pleased with much of what I saw. I truly believed that Elizabeth would be totally forgotten until they needed her for February sweeps or some other event. Of course, I read that Joe Flanigan had a lot to do with Elizabeth not being an after thought so the writers probably still suck.

I'm still very leery of Sam being on Atlantis. They did a better job with the transition than I had hoped for, but she is as much military as scientist and I wonder over the long haul how that will work with John, supposedly, being in charge of missions.

I agree with the "renaissance festival worlds" being done to death. It would be nice to see one world where they, oh, had a radio or something. The fighting wasn't great, but after seeing the horrendous fight editing on Bionic Woman it didn't seem too bad. What bugged me more is the not good job they are doing of covering up Rachel's pregnancy.

SGA was fun when it was a lead in for SG1 and BSG, but I'm really not digging having to stay up to 11 to watch it. (/old fart)

I actually try to nap earlier in the evening. ;) It was easy for me to stay up to 10 when it was BSG I was looking forward to, but not for SGA. I'll probably give it a little more time, but AT is not enough to get me to tune in every week.

I haven't opened my FNL DVDs yet. I did open my Stargate mega box set and I swear someone from MIT must have been involved in the packaging. I had to sit and think about how to put it all back together. I'm tempted to post pictures.
It really pissed me off that Tyra fucks Landry because of the murder. Not only does it kill the incipient romance between them, but it feels like she had to put out for him because they're now conspiring together. Yuck.
I didn't feel that she felt she had to put out for him, but it did seem, in part, a thank you for everything Landry had done for her and that is more than a little disturbing and icky.
Ive not caught this weeks SGA yet, but Ive caught 2 eps of BW. Im yet to be impressed in any way
So Rodney thought he was going to be the new leader of Atlantis? "It's kinda scary though. You know I'll be making decisions that don't affect just the city but the entire galaxy." I agree with Radek, very, very scary. And let's review Rodney's last decisions.

Yes, let's! I was so utterly appalled by Rodney there, because he has not an iota of self-awareness or humility, no recollection that he has occasionally made decisions that have gotten people killed, and he comes across, frankly, as kind of a sociopath. I don't think that's what the writers were going for; I think they thought that was a funny gag, and entirely neglected the context. At least John comes across as someone who remembers what happened in the last two episodes, and who has some human emotions. And although there was obviously something fishy going on with the Satedans, I felt like Ronon made mistakes out of loyalty and memory, not because he had suddenly been lobotomized by an invisible laser. For this show, that's a major accomplishment.

I totally flailed during the scene between Sam and Teal'c too! Once, you know, I got a chance to go back and see it. *heaps curses on BART*
You are the second person I know who has referred to Rodney as a sociopath. I do agree that I don't think the writers had any attention of going there (it's far to interesting and complicated an idea to reveal one of their supposed heroes is a sociopath), they just seem oblivious as to how their 'joke' is coming off to many of the fans. If none of the characters had acknowledged Elizabeth's loss, it would have been easy to write off Rodney's behavior as part of the group amnesia and bad writing, but once John and Ronon talked about her then Rodney's attitude became repugnant.

Ronon's errors in judgment I found easy to accept. These were his friends, people he trusted, and people he assumed had the same sense of honor and duty that he felt. Plus, they were another connection to his past I think he was eager to hold onto and thus it blinded him to any suspicion of where their true allegiances now are. At least he learned a lesson from his mistake...unlike other people.
Yeah, I think the writers are just trying to write cute, wacky Rodney with his ego and his selfishness, but perhaps they would do well to reflect that total lack of empathy for other human beings and seeing people only as tools for your purpose or gratification are actually the classic traits of a sociopath. And, really, that's how he's coming across to me at this point. I know they can do better--that episode where he got super smart for a while had him actually using his ability to help others--but I think they've just given up on quality at this point.
Did not bother watching SGA. Perhaps I should have? Will look for it online.

And I totally agree that the casting for young Husker is dead-on perfect, although it seems to me that his contacts (unless those were actually his eyes, and if so, WOW!) were just a wee bit TOO blue, as in almost Fremen-y blue.
If you can get by Rodney acting like a complete ass, then it was a pretty decent ep.

His eyes did seem to be an almost unnatural shade of blue. I had the sense they were lingering on that close-up and making the eyes a focus to make the connection to Old Adama (hee, I guess I can call him that now ;) and Lee. So, the color may have been a deliberate artistic choice if not a realistic one.
You mean there's an episode where Rodney DOESN'T act like a complete ass?

And I totally agree that it was a deliberate artistic choice; I just think it was a bit heavy handed.
Ok, he was an even bigger complete ass than usual. :p People are even referring to him as a sociopath and that term is not without merit after this episode.
Oh my god, that is one of the best stargate icons ever! Totally made of win.

And sociopath, eh? And it's still worth seeing?? ::boggles::
Tyra and Landry making jokes on the bridge where they dumped a body?

Oof, yeah, that made me entirely uncomfortable.

But the show has always been about the little things and moments and I think we're being shown that while Jason will see some improvement, he won't be getting his old life back.

And I'm actually glad for that. I think it's very rare for a tv character to sustain na injury or a disease and actually live with it. Either they die or they reach recovery and rarely the middle ground. I also think Jason will have more improvement but I really like that he'll remain in the wheelchair, which sounds kinda harsh on my part, but I think it's important. And i love the show for doing that.

Then she did break with him and placed the blame on herself (loved that Matt stated he knew it wasn't him :) and through her breakup speech you could tell she's just confused and scared and probably making some bad choices.

Ugh, exactly! It's like last week, I was so annoyed with her and then she had that moment with her dad, really laying out how scared she is of falling into this rut of a relationship with Matt already at such a young age. And it just...fit. Made sense for her character.

I don't get the exact appeal of The Sweded, then again, I'm no longer a teenage girl. The older factor and the "in a band" factor are big ones, as i recall, especially the band one. It really doesn't matter if the band is awful, either(as The Swede's is), just the image. Basically, I think he represents everything Julie is not around all the damn time and therefore, she wants it. Of course, this guy is gonna break her heart, no doubt, but hopefully, she won't have made too many, er, irreversible choices. Then again, heh, I wouldn't actually be surprised if she did. It would fit.

I liked the way the relationship was developing before and wanted to see how they would overcome family and social issues to be together. But now there first time having sex is after sharing their feelings about a murder cover up.

Well, you already know my feelings about this, but yes, I completely agree. I didn't even want to see something romantic coming of Tyra/Landry, I really liked them as buddies, but if it had to happen, i HATE that it happened this way.

I lasted fifteen minutes before I changed the channel.

Why is this show still on again?