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BSG: A Disquiet Follows My Soul

My onscreen guide and imdb have the title as ‘The Disquiet That Follows My Soul’, but the SciFi site has it as ‘A Disquiet Follows My Soul’. I guess I’ll go with SciFi on this post.



Tigh may need a drink to help him prepare for impending fatherhood, but he seemed genuinely happy about the event. Both he and Caprica were beaming. But I fear for the unborn child. Nurse Ishay (Mrs. Bamber! Well, technically Mrs. Griffith ;) didn’t look happy as Caprica talked about the survival and perpetuation of the Cylon race. She was also eager to reveal that Nicky was not half Cylon. Will she be part of Gaeta’s mutiny?

I loved the Tigh/Caprica scene. Tigh was laughing! With Caprica! And happy! And Cottle had some fabulous lines. My personal favorite may be “working up a profile on this savior”. And while he didn’t seem too concerned about smoking in front of the expectant mother, Tigh quickly put out his cigarette.

The number on the white board this week is 39,644. Before Dee’s death it was 39,651. Seven suicides didn’t seem like a high number to me given the current circumstances. And it turns out it’s only four because, according to Mo Ryan, the webisodes with their three human deaths took place between last week and this week’s episode.

The writers have done an excellent job of building upon Gaeta’s resentment and bitterness and motivations for helping to spearhead the mutiny. His downfall (?) started two years ago with Baltar’s complete failure to live up to his expectations. That was followed by almost being blown out an airlock by, as it turns out, two Cylons and a woman married to one. A third Cylon is responsible for him losing a leg. Then there is the betrayal by the Sharon on New Caprica, Dee’s suicide, brought on by Laura Roslin’s failed promises, and having to wait for medical treatment as Cottle attends to a former Cylon prisoner. Finally, Adama announces that the people who have taken so much from him are to be their allies. I believe Gaeta’s plan to be ill conceived and, ultimately, it will cause him more pain. But I understand why he is making this choice and his arc has been a fascinating one to watch.

I realize Kara is trying to deal with the discovery she made on earth. She still doesn’t know who or what she is. And Gaeta was in her face, forcing her to talk about things she wasn’t ready to talk about. However, I found her comments to Gaeta deplorable. Gaeta lost his leg on Demetrius, a ship under her command, because her husband rushed to her defense. Both lied about what happened and neither received any punishment. Instead of getting up and walking away, the ugly side of Kara Thrace resurfaced and I just can’t find any way to defend her comments in that scene

Tom Zarek, don’t make me agree with you! Zarek’s comments and actions are selfishly motivated. And, in the current political vacuum, he’s making yet another power play. Yet, he also made some damn good points. The XO, the second in command of the fleet, is a Cylon. Adama, Mr. I Won’t Allow Networked Computers on My Ship, has OK’d Cylon technology to be installed on all ships in the fleet. The President is now living aboard Galactica and has not been seen or heard from. And Adama either a) expects everyone to go along with his wishes or b) for Lee, alone, to sell his plan.

But, for me, the big ‘Seriously?’ had to be the Cylons desire to be citizens *and* have a seat on the Quorum. I would have jumped out of my seat too, Lee. While the latter request actually makes some sense given they are, in a way, descendants of the thirteenth tribe, having the race that wiped out fifty billion humans suddenly be considered equals with a say in humanities future, yeah, that is hard to fathom.

I flashed back to Lee’s conversation with Laura in ‘Guess What’s Coming to Dinner’, the one in which he convinced her to talk to the Quorum. He’s trying to get her to do that again, but she’s not taking his calls. He was right the last time and he’s right this time. I don’t believe Laura could convince the entire Quorum and that she and Adama’s path is the only they can follow. However, I do feel she could have swayed a few of the Quorum delegates to her side and at least stopped a rush to judgment and, as it turns out, a rush to mutiny.

I’m not sure what to say about Laura Roslin at this point. Her characterization seemed a little bit off to me. I understand her breakdown. I understand she’s feeling she sacrificed so much personally, so much of herself, and it led to nothing. She’s no longer seen as humanities savior; she’s just another unfortunate survivor. So, now, she’s looking to “live before she dies”. I get it and I don’t begrudge her finding some happiness. But there’s also a selfishness here that seems extreme. She knows the fleet is falling apart. She knows Tom Zarek is making a power grab and has all but assumed the presidency…and none of that seems to matter to her. We’re really to believe she doesn’t care if humanity destroys itself?

Adama left me confused as well. Or, more precisely, some of Ron’s writing left me confused. Why did we have to watch Adama brush his teeth twice? Was this important? He can’t prevent the fleet from falling apart, but he can prevent tooth decay? Was he trying to get the smell of alcohol off his breath? And while I know Tom Zarek is capable of some dirty dealings, has he really been as corrupt as Adama claimed he was and selling the office of the vice president? Yes, Adama was bluffing, there was no file, but Zarek seemed to believe Adama had dirt on him. And, if he was that dirty, Laura stood by and did nothing? It all seems hard to believe.

As does Cally’s dalliance with Hot Dog which resulted in Nicky. Thanks to images of the Frak Chart from the cast and crew yearbook floating around, I was spoiled for a Cally/Hot Dog hookup, but I had no clue they were going to make Hot Dog Nicky’s biological father. While it helps to keep Hera special, there are other reasons it doesn’t work. When Cally went to the airlock to kill herself, why take Nicky with her? She hadn’t helped to create a hybrid. Why not leave the child with Hot Dog? Or Cottle? I smelled a retcon and guess what? I was right! From Mo Ryan’s interview with Ron:

So you had to sort of retrofit...

Yeah, we had to retrofit that. We knew that was going to be a problem back when we decided that Tyrol was a Cylon. We said, “OK, how are we going to deal with that?” And [someone] said, “Well, maybe at some point we just find out Tyrol’s not the father.” And we all kind of laughed. And then we said, “Actually, that’s a very elegant solution to it.” We just say, “Tyrol’s not the father,” and we move on.

Random Thoughts…

• Lee, I can’t believe you slipped up like that either! So it looks like Tigh fessed up about Ellen being the fifth. I’m glad. Keeping secrets was destroying him and he needs to be coming cleaning about things.

• Zarek asking Lee if he’s president again? Heh. I think Zarek was speaking for the entire audience there.

• Nice bit of continuity with Cottle stating that abortion is illegal, but there are ways around it.

• Baltar has gone from talking about the gods, to preaching of a single god, to now, apparently, going the route of an atheist.

• Gaeta supported Baltar as president and now Zarek. He sure knows how to pick them!

• Honestly, for all you Laura/Adama shippers, I’m happy. But, no, I’m not commenting on it. :p

• I was going to ask, “Where the hell is Anders?” But I’m having trouble recalling when they resumed filming and when Michael Trucco had his accident so it’s possible he wasn’t available for this episode.

• Non-spoilery comment regarding the promo for next week’s episode – Narcho! I’m not entirely sure why, but I have a fixation on this character.


And since I referred to it, Part 2 of Mo Ryan’s Interview with Ron Moore. No spoilers beyond this week’s episode.
  • Current Mood: pleased pleased
The other part of that interview which annoyed me was this:

We’ll deal with that in episodes coming up. Caprica Six and Tigh would be the first Cylon-Cylon pairing that came to fruition.

But hang on, if the entire Thirteenth Tribe were Cylons, obviously they all bred with each other! So how is this special? I understand this is the first time it's happened in 2000 years, but if it happened before - uh - it's no real surprise it's happened again.

Which then leads to the question - why hasn't it happened with The Seven before? They've been trying, that's been clear for a while. So the Seven and the Five are different from each other. Okay, so that makes it "special" - but is that more or less "special" than Hera?

And it just seems all too random - it doesn't feel genuinely right for the story that both things are happening. Retconning Nicky's parentage is one thing but giving Six/Tigh a child still doesn't make much sense to me.

Otherwise, as always - great review!
I'm as confused as you about Cylon procreation. Remember how the Cylons believed Hera came to be because Helo and Athena were in love with each other? I always found that laughable. At best I think you could argue because Athena did have feelings for Helo and was more into and relaxed it could have helped her to become pregnant. But if we were to accept love was a key part in that pregnancy, how do you explain Caprica's pregnancy? I don't think we were meant to believe that Tigh and Caprica were in love when that child was created. I wouldn't even say they've grown to love each other, but perhaps care for each other. And if they are going to establish her pregnancy was possible because she was impregnated by one of the five, are Tyrol, Tigh, and Anders to become sperm donors for the entire Cylon race? We definitely need some more information.
i really liked it. the episode i mean. i also enjoyed reading your review, and i think i agree with most of it. except for, i think, the laura part, as she really made sense to me this episode. just, a lot of sense.

other than that, i just wish, really truly wish, i would get used to laura NOT having hair. but i can't. it bugs me. if mary mcdonnell's hair weren't so absolutely stunning, i might be able to live with the bald cap thingie. is that horrible of me? am i a bad fan for it?
Laura is making more sense to me as I read the analysis of others, but I'm still not to a place where I can completely accept her actions or inaction.

You are not alone with the hair issue. I have problems with Laura's baldness. First of all, while many patients undergoing chemo do lose their hair, not all of them do. My dad didn't, though his hair did get a bit thinner. I think they could have and should have just made her hair look less fabulous. Second, the bald cap looks ridiculous. People's scalps are not perfect and she has a perfectly rounded head??? And, finally, she still has her eyebrows. She's lost all of her hair and yet she has these perfectly sculptured eyebrows? So, no, I don't think you should feel horrible because I don't feel they handled this well.
i think i do because i love her too much not to. i'm in a sort of place where, irrationally, she makes sense to me either because she TRULY makes sense, or because i modify my reality to match hers. crazy much? yeah, probably. ;)

thank you! am glad i'm not the only one bothered by the damn bald cap.
The writers have done an excellent job of building upon Gaeta’s resentment and bitterness and motivations for helping to spearhead the mutiny. His downfall (?) started two years ago with Baltar’s complete failure to live up to his expectations. That was followed by almost being blown out an airlock by, as it turns out, two Cylons and a woman married to one. A third Cylon is responsible for him losing a leg. Then there is the betrayal by the Sharon on New Caprica, Dee’s suicide, brought on by Laura Roslin’s failed promises, and having to wait for medical treatment as Cottle attends to a former Cylon prisoner. Finally, Adama announces that the people who have taken so much from him are to be their allies. I believe Gaeta’s plan to be ill conceived and, ultimately, it will cause him more pain. But I understand why he is making this choice and his arc has been a fascinating one to watch.

Yes! I love how organic his arc has been. It's truly been a long time coming. There's no question he's nothing like the naive fanboy of Baltar's genius we saw in S1. He's also been someone who continually stands up for what he believes in regardless of the consequences to himself or anyone else and it almost always turns out badly for him. It won't be pretty to watch. But it's so much more interesting to see a good guy doing "bad" things for what he believes to be morally correct reasons.
One of the things I'm most looking forward to is the 'Oh my gods, what have I done?' moment. Because while I think Gaeta has some legitimate concerns as to the direction Adama intends to take the fleet (and this is the guy that opened Adama's eyes to the election fraud because he believed the people's voices needed to be heard), his actions are, in part, selfishly motivated. Not that I can blame Gaeta for that given what he has been through recently. But it's going to weigh on him that he allowed his feelings to affect his judgment and that others will be hurt because of it.
I realize Kara is trying to deal with the discovery she made on earth. She still doesn’t know who or what she is. And Gaeta was in her face, forcing her to talk about things she wasn’t ready to talk about. However, I found her comments to Gaeta deplorable. Gaeta lost his leg on Demetrius, a ship under her command, because her husband rushed to her defense. Both lied about what happened and neither received any punishment. Instead of getting up and walking away, the ugly side of Kara Thrace resurfaced and I just can’t find any way to defend her comments in that scene

Eh, as a rabid Kara fan, I think she was actually a bit subdued. A lot of my also-rabid-Kara-f'listers have also pointed out that it makes them more hopeful that this is still Kara--in spite of burning her own body last week, she's still herself. Plus it was definitely deliberate on Felix's part to manipulate the whole confrontation in order to get her to leave the room so he could get busy sowing mutiny/insurrection/whatever. Heh.
As others have pointed out elsewhere, and I have to agree, with them, we did see the old Kara/Starbuck in her confrontation with Gaeta. When she's pushed, she will lash out and she has a gift for knowing how to hurt people. Maybe I'm just getting ahead of myself because I felt she was growing beyond that behavior. And she is partly responsible for Gaeta losing his leg. An apology by her or Anders at some point for that might have helped.

I don't know what Kara is, but I've never doubted it is still Kara. The memories, emotions, and personality are all the same and I believe that's what makes the person. So if a new body was created somehow by some higher power to host her consciousness, she's still who she always has been.
OMG TIGH/CAPRICA I HAVE NO SHAME I LOVE THEM SO!

Regarding Gaeta I completely agree that they did a great job in building up his motivations which is why I felt so...guilty for not being more horrified at Kara. Because she was horrible. I guess it's because while I understand his actions in helping Zarek, I don't sympathise with them or the way he's enacting them and he's never been a character who's POV I easily slip into. He baited Kara deliberately, and while that doesn't excuse her choice to respond the way she did, something about Katee Sackhoff's beautiful acting - the way she was scared, angry and exhausted all at once as she said, "Okay," and pulled on her Starbuck mask, really got at me.

But basically I loved that scene. It did such a great job of showing not telling.

Regarding Laura - I would definitely like to see Lee rather than Adama talk her out of her funk, although I doubt I'll be that lucky. Then again I didn't think I'd get to see it in 4.0 either so we'll see.

As to her actual characterisation, to be honest, the only way I know to understand her characterisation, the only way it makes sense to me, terrifies me. Because when she was jogging - the look on her face. It was like...two steps away from embarassing crazy lady in a department store losing all her dignity breakdown. I'm not entirely sure I could handle that.

Oh and finally - I was somewhat surprised to hear that abortion was still illegal since that was Baltar's initial PLATFORM ISSUE, but...it's horribly hilarious too. He just...totally forgets about it and probably every other campaign promise. I also liked the implication that Cottle was just carrying on doing his thing, regardless of the law.
OMG TIGH/CAPRICA I HAVE NO SHAME I LOVE THEM SO!

I was just pleased to see Caprica so happy for once. And I don't think she loves Tigh like she did Baltar, but Tigh was able to give her something (a child) that she's always wanted and never though possible. Of course, I fear she's going to get caught in crossfire during the mutiny or something similarly tragic and lose the baby. :(

I know Ron has specific things he needs to happen and I feel he's setting up how we get to those events in the best way possible. But what would have been interesting to see is Gaeta going to Laura to lay out what is about to happen. Obviously, he's had it with Adama and Adama made it clear he's not listening to anybody. And I think Gaeta is holding Laura at least in part responsible for Dee's death. If he could find the strength to move beyond that, he might be the one to open Laura's eyes to the anger in the fleet and what is happening in her absence. But, as I said, Ron needs the fleet to tear itself a part before Laura puts it back together and so poor Gaeta is going to be in for an even bigger world of pain.

I would definitely like to see Lee rather than Adama talk her out of her funk, although I doubt I'll be that lucky. Then again I didn't think I'd get to see it in 4.0 either so we'll see.

Lee might have a hand in her getting her shit together, but I really the catalyst for her snapping out of it is Adama's life being at risk. It's unlikely that will happen since Ron finally gave A/R fans what they wanted in a depressing context, but I still have fears.

It was like...two steps away from embarassing crazy lady in a department store losing all her dignity breakdown.

::snort::

The scene that scared me more was her first scene in which she was giving some weird one woman show to no audience organizing her meds, tossing them out, then pretending to swallow the pills. At the time I was thinking there was something off about Mary's performance, but maybe it was Ron's way of conveying she had totally lost it, no one was around to witness it, and all of her subsequent actions were her dealing with the insanity.

And given I've had so many realizations two days later, I might have to do another post. ;)

I was somewhat surprised to hear that abortion was still illegal since that was Baltar's initial PLATFORM ISSUE, but...it's horribly hilarious too. He just...totally forgets about it and probably every other campaign promise. I also liked the implication that Cottle was just carrying on doing his thing, regardless of the law.

The way Cottle said "there are ways around it" made me wonder if Baltar amended the abortion law to include exceptions. It didn't sound as if Cottle was doing abortions illegally. Perhaps the way he and his patients get around the law is by stating the mother's life is in danger or she was the victim of a rape.
Non-spoilery comment regarding the promo for next week’s episode – Narcho! I’m not entirely sure why, but I have a fixation on this character.

Because, despite his jerkish behavior, he's really kind of hot? :) I'm curious to see what all he's up to as well, especially since he was the first choice for Gaeta's lover. I can't help but think that relationship would have been very, very different than Gaeta/Hoshi. (Hoshi seems much nicer.)

I'd love to see more of some of the Pegasus people at this point. Narcho and Stinger seem to have completely dropped off the face of the, erm, Galactica. Hoshi was only around to be a substitute Dee/Gaeta, but SaGN may have changed that a bit. (I'm dying to know what his role is going to be next week as well. I still think the "I'll protect you" line in the webisodes was put in there deliberately.) But they don't have the overwhelming Adama loyalty, although maybe they're more disciplined.

I agree with pretty much everything you say. I just wanted to comment you're not alone with having a strange fascination with Narcho. :)
Because, despite his jerkish behavior, he's really kind of hot? :)

Hee! I do recall that the first time I saw him my immediate reaction was "Another hot viper pilot!" ;)

I haven't listened to the commentary on the webisodes, but a friend informed me that Gaeta's lover was to be Narcho which left me going, "WHAT?!" However, the news also made me happy. See, I've always suspected Narcho was gay. I mean, hot guy and the female members of the crew aren't lined up? And in my fanon he has a crush on Lee. ;) But I feel Hoshi was ultimately a better choice for Gaeta. They would have had plenty of time to get to know each other working together in CIC.

I'd love to know what happened to Stinger too - other than being tied up shooting 'Brothers & Sisters'. The last we heard he was in the brig on Pegasus. I hope they let him out before Lee sacrificed the ship. I almost wish they would establish he died at some point because his absence makes no sense. He was a CAG and with Kat dead and Lee moving on you'd think he'd have a prominent role now.

It would be interesting if Hoshi ended up taking Adama's side or, worse yet for Gaeta (cause he hasn't suffered enough) Hoshi gets caught in the crossfire.

And thanks for letting me know I'm not alone!