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Normal Again Dailies

Well, the day has finally arrived. Barring some new ones becoming available, this will be my final dailies post. :( I feel like I've lost my 'thing'. I don't know, I may have to try my hand at a fanfic. Of course, I'm picky in that department and I'll actually need to come up with a plot first. ;)



Coming to the end of my dailies viewing (WAHHHH!!!), I've found a few commonalities amongst them all. First, lots of Sarah smiling before and after takes. The girl does seem to like to keep things light on the set no matter how dark the material (There is one noticable exception to this, but more on that later).

Second, the girl has a great memory. I've mentioned numerous times her cuing the other actors as to what their lines are. In NA, there are several rather long, uninterupted takes of her where she doesn't flub a single word or line. It's odd, but after one take of her confessing to Dawn, Willow, and Xander what has been happening to her she asks "Is any of this usable?" I don't know what she's seeing that I'm not because the take is flawless (except for Nick flubbing a line, but he's off camera). During other takes of that same scene we see her joking around. After "...just part of the delusion in my head" she turns to the camera with a big grin, winks, and states "I got it, I'm done". In another she finshes up with "just noises in my head" and makes hand gestures around her head.

When the camera is on the others as she delivers her lines and Nick has to say "And when you say poke?" Michelle and Aly cannot keep a straight face. I think it takes about four attempts until they can all get it back together.

In the cemetary scene, there are a couple of interesting cuts. After Spike's "Yeah, well...some people can't see a good thing when they've got it." he continues on with "End up dumping the one thing they got going for them." When Xander and Willow approach Spike and Buffy and Buffy makes that lame ass excuse that she was seeing what "dangerous contraband" Spike had she continues on with "probably more demon
eggs...from a smallish demon". In one take it's definitely said in a joking manner, but I'm still glad it was cut. I would have liked the demon egg thing addressed, just not in *that* kind of way.

Oh, then there is the Spander fans dream come true moment. ;) In one take, when Xander and Spike are to go toe to toe, Nick and James end up leaning in at the same time and they seem to realize what it looks like - that they are about to kiss. Soooooo, they decide to play it up, lean in real close (their lips almost touch) and pretend to kiss. They even making kissing noises. While this is going on you hear Aly say "You're gonna kiss" and see her giggling. :-)

Some random bits in these takes.....

James flubs a line, 'cut' is called and James continues with "or something like that".

As they are waiting for the crew to finish setting up a shot Sarah notices what must have been a rather large moon that night. She excitedly says "Cause look at that moon. Look at it! Can we get it in the shot?" Apparently someone tells her no because then next thing you hear is "Shit". :)

On Disc 3 (sadly we have no disc 2 - an incomplete set is better than no set is my motto), there is a lot of stuff of Buffy in the institution. The actor portraying the doctor has a real struggle with his lines. They have to stop and start many times and you see him keep going into his jacket pocket where he has his lines hidden.

Buffy's scenes in the institution are the one time I see her really drained and making no jokes between takes. Following filming the scene where Buffy is saying good-bye, still in tears (real tears), she asks Kristine if *she* is OK. Must have been tough for both of them.

There was a very pleasent surprise within these NA dailies. Now, all of them contain bits of footage from other episodes. So, when I saw a clip of Anya and Halfrek having a disscusion at the Magic Box about Anya getting revenge on Xander, I thought 'Oh, great, a couple minutes of 'Entropy'. Nope, it turns out it's *all* the footage of Halfrek, Anya, and Spike in the Magic Box including the kissing - but not the two of them going at it on the table. :(

Now I don't know if she's staying in character or not, but in the dailies I've noticed it's hard to tell where Anya stops and Emma starts. Her mannerisms and the way she talks is very similar to Anya, in my opinion.

James and Emma seem very at ease with each other and do much chatting between takes. We hear before 'action' "You're fucking right about that." What she's right about, I don't know. ;p After Anya's "sexy dance" line the director asks James to do "I have no dance" over with more dissapointment over having no dance. James doesn't seem to like this reading. He shakes his head and says to Emma "I don't know what they want from me".

Emma's eating a sandwich between takes. :)

As filming progresses on Anya thanking Spike for listening to her and she reveals her real fear that Xander never loved her as she loved him, Emma grows progressively more vulnerable and emotional and teh tears start to come. I believe her last take is the one they used in the final cut.

Both kept the kissing very lighthearted. They were laughing after each take. In one 'cut' had to be called because Emma's shirt got caught in her hair. In another, Emma gets off his lap and says in a high pitched voice "Hello, hello, I'm in a bra everybody!" and swings her top over her head. And after another we hear Emma say (while on his lap) "Hello darling" to James in a British accent and him responding in a low, growly voice "Yeah". ::fans self::

There some stuff of Buffy confronting Dawn and chasing her. Sadly, no take of her catching Dawn and killing her, so, moving on....

And now we come to the final disc. :( Lots of shots of Buffy (and her double) fighting the demon. Pretty boring stuff. The reshoot of the alley beating in DT. Buffy telling Sarah about her time in the institution. Dawn and Buffy talking in Willow/Joyce's bedroom. Not much there. Though, there were some subtle differences in the exchanges between the two in Dawn's bedroom as she's packing up to go to Janice's (again). In take one I noticed she's more fearful of Buffy's demanor, in take two she's more snippy, and in take three she seems concerned about her sister's well being.

To be honest. NA is not one of my favorite ep's so, for the life of me , I can't recall if in the ep there is a conversation between Buffy and Willow in the dining room after Buffy has dumped the anecdote and come downstairs. Anyway, there is one cute bit amidst the dialogue. Aly in the midst of what she should be saying adds "Do you hear that talking?" to which Sarah responds "It's the other stage. They're acting. Second unit." and then they just keep going.

It doesn't seem that they did too many takes of Buffy and Spike's conversation in her bedroom. And while I originally thought it was James' first take they used, I now believe (thank you Deborah ;) that it's his second. Which is really impressive because it started out as a blown take. James misses his cue to come in. Aly turns around looking for him and seeing a big empty space where he should be, starts laughing. James finally walks in (in character), sees her, starts laughing himself, turns and walks out of the room to start over. All together there were only three takes of this scene.

Oh, and check out _jems_'s LJ. She posted a slew of icons of 'The Kiss'. Just one of the reasons I adore her. :-)
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Sadly, no take of her catching Dawn and killing her, so, moving on....

Hee! And thanks for these posts.
NA Dailies
After what you describe of the Entropy scenage, I can't help but speculate what's on that missing disc! Oh, how I wish we knew.

::gusty sigh::

Shame that this is the end of the dailies (at least that we know of; I can't help but think there are more floating around), but don't feel like you need a 'thing' to keep us entertained ;-)
What a lovely post to wake up to! :)

Thank you for all your reporting! And how many icons are we going to see with that kiss now...
You mean I don't get to live vicariously through you anymore? Darn.

Thanks for posting your thoughts, the dailies sound like they're fun to watch.

And thanks for the pimp. =)
I'd pimp you anytime....that just never sounds right. ;p

Oh, and as long as I have your attention, last call for a holiday card. I don't know yet if I'll include a pic of The Kiss since I used one last year, but there will be Spuffy....and puppet Angel....don't ask. ;)
Emma's eating a sandwich between takes. :)

Good to know she was eating.;)

Thank you for the recap! Maybe more dailies will show up in the future...
Thank you for the dailies report, vivid and amusing as usual. *g* And don't worry about losing "your thing" - I'm sure you can keep the masses entertained somehow... *snicker*

And will there be caps of Spander? Because that's be too.freakin.funny. *g*

Buffy's scenes in the institution are the one time I see her really drained and making no jokes between takes. Following filming the scene where Buffy is saying good-bye, still in tears (real tears), she asks Kristine if *she* is OK. Must have been tough for both of them.

God. For some reason, that just brought tears to my eyes.

Thanks again, sweetie. You rock.
Yes, I'm sure I'll find a way to continue to amuse. I still haven't watched my season 7 DVDs and there will be plenty for me to make fun of there. ::cough:: Potentials ::cough:: ;)

And Kuarela was kind enough to provide a link to the 'kiss'. I recall the first time I watched the clip. I burst out laughing, thinking 'OMG the Spander fans *finally* having their moment!' ;-)
I feel the same way. :( Though, if you look at a post below, apparently there are dailies for 'Seeing Red' out there.
Second, the girl [SMG]has a great memory.

I remember reading that her audition for BtVS was letter perfect. I recall James saying at Flashback 03 Q&A that he'd always thought he was a quick study but Sara (paraphrasing) left him in the dust. In all the dailies I've seen, she rarely got a line wrong. I wonder how unusual that quality is among actors. My guess is, pretty unusual.

When Xander and Willow approach Spike and Buffy and Buffy makes that lame ass excuse that she was seeing what "dangerous contraband" Spike had she continues on with "probably more demon
eggs...from a smallish demon". In one take it's definitely said in a joking manner, but I'm still glad it was cut. I would have liked the demon egg thing addressed, just not in *that* kind of way.


Huh? Okay, something obviously sailed right by me every time I heard that line, because I'd just thought Buffy meant that the demon eggs would have to be small because they'd have to be concealed on Spike's person or in his grocery bag. What did I miss?

...In one take, when Xander and Spike are to go toe to toe, Nick and James end up leaning in at the same time and they seem to realize what it looks like - that they are about to kiss. Soooooo, they decide to play it up, lean in real close (their lips almost touch) and pretend to kiss.

Pretend to kiss? What pretend? It looked real to me. Damn. Now I'll have to go watch again (a tough job, but someone's gotta do it).

James and Emma seem very at ease with each other and do much chatting between takes. We hear before 'action' "You're fucking right about that."

My impression was different. I didn't see that remark as a response to some comment by Emma at all. I assumed the "you're fucking right about that" was a lucky glimpse of James preparing himself for the scene. He seemed to be finding his way into Spike's mind set for the moment - hey! I think what we saw was James practicing The Method. It reminds me of that take in the "Wrecked" dailies when he and Sarah are about to do a take of the walk & talk scene when looking for Rack, and before "Action" is called we see him repeating some "Tiger" phrase like a mantra; "Ride the Tiger maybe?") to himself over and over, and Sarah interrupt him by joking if he means Tony the Tiger.

I loved the extended "Entropy" material we got in the NA dailies, but what I'd love to see even more than the mutual consolation sex that we didn't get, is the very last scene in general and James' very last line in particular. "Entropy" is such a powerful and moving episode for me. It proceeds without a single false note, until that last line of Spike's, which he says as he looks after Xander's retreating form, and says something like "That Xander, always ...." (can't remember exact line) and then starts to make a vengeance wish which Anya stops him from doing. I've always been perplexed by James' delivery of that line - it just sounds too loud or too something for that moment. Discordant. I'm very curious about the other takes for that line, whether there were any that felt *right* to me that they didn't use.

It doesn't seem that they did too many takes of Buffy and Spike's conversation in her bedroom. And while I originally thought it was James' first take they used, I now believe (thank you Deborah ;) that it's his second...

You're very welcome.

And thank you so much for writing up all your dailies reviews. I'm hopeless at writing anything from scratch, but if someone else writes a review or an essay, not only do I get the benefits of their perspectives and insights, but I get a frame for my own thoughts, which are often so drifty and vague that I have trouble pinning them down otherwise.

It would be nice if more dailies become available in the future, but it looks as if the trend is going in the other direction. There's practically none left on Ebay anymore.
I been reading your comments about the dallies since the sunnyhearld posted a link the other day

I thoought you would be interested to know that there is a least 1 other set of dallies available namely the "Seeing Red" dallies

This was posted on the SMGboard by a poster called Caroline

I finally saw the seeing red dailies yesterday. These are probably the most awkward James and Sarah scenes I have ever watched. In a convention I have James says that the rape scene was incredibly hard for him, this is evident in the outtakes. James is very quiet. He only says a few words to Sarah and a few words to the director.

They do the actual scene a couple of times as a whole and then they reshoot some parts of the scenes a couple more times. A part of the scene they reshoot is when Sarah is on the floor and James is pulling at her leg. I dont know if James pulls too hard or what but Sarah says "Wait" or something. She turns around and James jumps back up and he says "Are you okay?" He looks really concerned and Sarah nods slowly then apologizes and says she needs a break. You hear someone asking her a question. She nods "no" and repeats "I need a break". They stop.

In another shot where Spike pulls Buffy's robe open is a scen I think James had the hardest time filming. I say this because he messes up quite a few times. The first time they do the scene James pulls Sarah's robe too hard and you can see the top she is wearing below (which is a very tight black tube top). James apologizes to Sarah and they reshoot.


I felt James was very kind to Sarah and did take into consideration her needs as I have heard him say before. In may shots you hear him ask Sarah if "this is okay" or "like this?" ect.

As for Sarah I think James gives her too much credit. I really think she was just as nervous as he was in filming this scene. She messed up 2 or 3 shots and I think this is very rare for Sarah (judging by other dailies). You can tell that everyone was pretty much feeling tense. There are no jokes, at all. Even in Dead Things or Smashed you hear people laughing, Sarah smiling all the time but here.

Thats pretty much all I have. I felt weird watching these dailies and so I stopped...I'm stupid but whatever.
Wow. Yeah, I'd imagine the dailies from that infamous scene would be very difficult to watch. But very interesting nonetheless. I'd probably be watching through a slit size opening between my fingers held over my eyes, but I would watch. I've seen the worst - the broadcast episode - the damage was done long ago. I won't pretend I'd not be interested in seeing how they (James and Sarah) managed to get through it, although James has told us often enough how horrible it was for him -the worst day of filming he's ever experienced to hear him tell it, and I believe him. So watching the filming would probably feel somewhat intrusive - just as it didn't feel quite right watching James' exposed tush in the dailies from the morning after scene in "Wrecked" (I bought, I watched, but I felt real bad about it). It didn't stop me watching though.

I've never seen or heard of the SR dailies being available before. If you know of a link to locating these or any dailies from episodes prominently featuring JM, I'd appreciate an Email:

dcohen2@luc.edu

Also, I'm guessing you may have intended to direct your comments to the owner of this LJ, Asta77, rather than myself. It's her wonderful dailies reviews we've (you and I, apparently) both been following. I'm just a grateful reader and beneficiary of her creative and diligent largess.
I been reading your comments about the dallies since the sunnyhearld posted a link the other day

Ok, I'm confused (par for the course ;), was I linked on Sunny Hearld? Not that I mine, I just didn't recall seeing my name (so to speak) there.

Thanks for posting the info regarding the 'Seeing Red' dailies. This is the first I'm hearing of their existence. I'm a bit torn after hearing Caroline's description. Part of me is interested in seeing them, but, like Caroline, I think it would be hard for me to watch.

Her descriptions seem to be in line with what I've seen on the other dailies. Sarah never seems to make a mistake and is almost always smiling and joking - that's why her seriousnous during the institution scene with Joyce really struck me. If that was difficult for her, I can only imagine what the AR scene must have been like.

On the flip side, I think it was very respectful of all involved in how they handled the filming of that particular scene. It wouldn't have been the place for jokes and I'm glad that what I presume to be a largely male crew was sensative to Sarah's emotions.

Thanks again. Feel free to delurk anytime. :)
it was a a very small link in Essay Meta and Opinion on the 23rd Nov that I almost missed

[Essay, Meta and Opinion]

x.Description and thoughts stemming from 'Dead Things' dailies.

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Thanks! I'm flattered that someone thought enough of the recap to rec it. :) Now, I'm encouraged to get all my dailies posts together and group them in Memories or something.
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Would you (or Asta) post a link for the SMGboard? I've been there once following a link but I didn't bookmark it.

What's the Sunny Herald? I've never heard of it.
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Thanks for the links Buffy. Hee! Maybe I should call you BD. ;)

To bad the discussion about the dailies didn't continue. I would have been interested to hear about what she may have seen of AYW.
Huh? Okay, something obviously sailed right by me every time I heard that line, because I'd just thought Buffy meant that the demon eggs would have to be small because they'd have to be concealed on Spike's person or in his grocery bag. What did I miss?

Please tell me if I'm wrong (as I said, NA is not a fav ep so I haven't watched it many times), but I don't recall any mention of "demon eggs" in the episode. I think her bit of dialog is cut off after "dangerous contraband". So, when I was watching the dailies for the first time and heard her mention the demon eggs it was jarring to me.

Pretend to kiss? What pretend? It looked real to me.

Hee. I didn't watch it frame by frame because, eh, Spander ain't my thing. ;) But, it looked to me as if their lips did not quite touch.

I assumed the "you're fucking right about that" was a lucky glimpse of James preparing himself for the scene. He seemed to be finding his way into Spike's mind set for the moment - hey! I think what we saw was James practicing The Method

I actually took it that way at first. But soon after we see him commenting to Emma that he has no idea what they (the director?) wants from him so them I thought that perhaps the "fucking right" line was just conversation between the two.

"Ride the Tiger maybe?"

It's 'Eye of the Tiger' which was the theme song to one of the 'Rocky' movies. I know waaayyyy too much about movies.

"That Xander, always ...." (can't remember exact line) and then starts to make a vengeance wish which Anya stops him from doing. I've always been perplexed by James' delivery of that line - it just sounds too loud or too something for that moment. Discordant. I'm very curious about the other takes for that line, whether there were any that felt *right* to me that they didn't use.

Now you've got me curious too! I always found his delivery of that line a bit cocky, maybe, given the situation, but the I think it's just Spike being Spike and putting up the tough guy facade so they don't see how much pain he's really in.
Please tell me if I'm wrong (as I said, NA is not a fav ep so I haven't watched it many times), but I don't recall any mention of "demon eggs" in the episode. I think her bit of dialog is cut off after "dangerous contraband". So, when I was watching the dailies for the first time and heard her mention the demon eggs it was jarring to me.

No, you're not wrong - the demon egg line was cut from the final episode. I was questioning your objection to the reference, not your assertion that it had been cut. To me the line didn't feel awkward or out of place. On the contrary, it implied that Buffy had told the Scoobies all about the demon eggs she and Riley had found in Spike's crypt, which gave her a handy excuse (suspicion of contraband) to use when caught talking with him.

Hee. I didn't watch it frame by frame because, eh, Spander ain't my thing. ;) But, it looked to me as if their lips did not quite touch.

Nor mine. I didn't pay particularly close attention - just enjoyed it and moved on. If they didn't make actual contact, I didn't notice. As I say, I'll have to watch again, now that you've raised the question in my mind.

I actually took it that way at first. But soon after we see him commenting to Emma that he has no idea what they (the director?) wants from him so them I thought that perhaps the "fucking right" line was just conversation between the two.

But the "I don't know what they want from me" comment to Emma was an obvious reference to the direction that he re-do the "I have no dance" line as if he felt disappointment about it. So I just don't see how one comment has anything to do with the other. I watched it again last night, and I really don't think there's a way to know for sure just from watching. It might make an interesting question for James. Doubtful he'd remember that specific instance though. And how would one frame the question? 'Uh, hypothetically, if one had seen some NA dailies, and seen you say "You're fucking right about that" just before Action was called for a take of the scene where you and Emma are at the Magic Box table drinking and commiserating, would you remember if you were replying to a comment made by Emma or practicing The Method there?'....mmmm - I dunno. In any case, I'd have to give the appropriateness of the question some thought. I'd always wondered about how the Method actually works though, and if that's what we saw him doing there then that's just....neat.

It's 'Eye of the Tiger' which was the theme song to one of the 'Rocky' movies. I know waaayyyy too much about movies.

Ah. So I was close, but no cigar. I'm one of the two people in the US who never saw a Rocky movie (other than the Rocky Horror Picture Show).

Now you've got me curious too! I always found his delivery of that line a bit cocky, maybe, given the situation, but the I think it's just Spike being Spike and putting up the tough guy facade so they don't see how much pain he's really in.

Maybe. But I've watched that scene over and over again since it aired, and I've never gotten that line to feel right to me. It's just too loud. But maybe you're right and he was just over compensating. Still, I'd be very curious to see the other takes he did for it.


I was questioning your objection to the reference, not your assertion that it had been cut. To me the line didn't feel awkward or out of place.

It's probably just personal preference. It's no secret I pretty much loath AYW and the demon egg/doc storyline in particular I've always felt was handled badly - even if I can rationalize other parts of the episode. So, when I heard Buffy bring up Spike's 'bad behavior' (when, in fact, I felt he did it with good intentions to raise money to help Buffy) I just cringed. I think the scene played out just fine without the mention.
...the demon egg/doc storyline in particular I've always felt was handled badly - even if I can rationalize other parts of the episode. So, when I heard Buffy bring up Spike's 'bad behavior' (when, in fact, I felt he did it with good intentions to raise money to help Buffy)...

Oh, you'll get no argument from me. You're singing to the choir. And this may seem petty, but one of the most awkward aspects of that episode for me was the fact that they'd had him hide those eggs in his bedroom, where he and Buffy were in the habit of boinking like bunnies, and where she would be quite likely to wonder in on them at worst, or at best, be put off from going down there by Spike coming up with some lame-ass excuse for why she shouldn't.

I mean, we were supposed to buy that they would have settled for sex and sleep on top of a stone sarcophagus, when he had that perfectly comfy, "posh" bedroom below? It made no sense. Just that detail alone represented for me how contrived and awkwardly cobbled together that episode was for the sake of the shifting of gears they had to do; Buffy and all the love-struck Spike fans out there had to be reminded that Spike is fundamentally immoral if not outright evil - that he's bad, so he's bad for Buffy and unworthy of her, and that Buffy must finally be resolved to leave him in the dark where he belongs and to return to the light where she belongs. And here endeth the lesson. (We're just supposed to forget all the grays and the complexities and layers and extenuating circumstances, not to mention that minor detail that Spike wouldn't consciously do anything he knew would give Buffy an excuse to dump him!

Grrr-Arggggg!

There's one moment though in that episode - one sad, desolate image, that for me has always summed up the patheticness and pain of S6 Spuffy. It's just before Riley barges in on the sleeping pair, and we see them laying together on that narrow stone surface, carefully positioned not to touch each other. The sight of Spike curled up on his side hugging himself because Buffy wouldn't, nor would she allow him to hold her, is heart-breaking. I wonder if when Riley saw them like that Spike's words to him came flooding back - about being so close to her and not having her, and if he realized in a flash that Spike now knew from personal experience what he'd inferred about Riley's own relationship with her....

Anyway, I don't mean to get into a whole discussion about that episode. Just to say, I understand.
Thank you for a fascinating report, as ever! I know I said this last time, but I do love your little stories of Sarah.

It can't be the last set! Oh no! Well, it's been a wonderful tour. I'm so grateful to you for sharing.
I don't know how I missed this, I must be slipping :)

Thanks so much, NA is a favorite episode of mine, mostly because I love the goodbye scene between institution Buffy and Joyce. It was so poignant, because Buffy never got a chance to say goodbye to her mother, and never thought her mother knew how much she loved her. I can understand how difficult those scenes must have been for both Sarah and Kristine.

Interesting that Michael Warren (the doctor) had a difficult time with his lines. I haven't seen him in much the last few years, so maybe he was having a problem due to lack of work.

As for Seeing Red, I don't think I could sit through those, after hearing what they were like.