Asta 2

If there wasn't proof enough I'm a 'Galactica' addict....

This morning my right knee got whacked hard by a door. My reaction? I grabbed it and said "Frack!". Yeah, just call me Starbuck. :p

Apparently there is another round of Serenity sneak peaks on May 26th. I doubt it will be coming anywhere near me and that's the only way I'd be able to see it since I can't get any time off work to travel. Oh, and it will have showed in San Fran the week before and week after I'm there. Me? Bitter?

I watched Veronica Mars last night. Still...am...not...gettting...it.

Ok, instead of being all "Awwwwww" when Logan announced in front of family and friends that Veronica was his girlfriend, I actually was creeped out. I understand that she's helped him deal with the chaos of his life and that would lead him to cling to her to an extent, but I just sensed something very unhealthy about his feelings towards her. Logan was very possessive of Veronica throughout the episode to the point that she's become his entire world. He seems to be trading in one dysfunctional relationship for another.

Almost as troublesome to me as his smothering of Veronica is her acceptance of it. I'm at a loss that Logan confesses to drugging Duncan at the party which, however unintentional, led to her not-rape-I-guess and she just shrugs it off? Hasn't this been one of two things that has consumed her all season and just because her 'boyfriend' confesses/apologizes it's in the past now?

And because I've missed many episodes, I'm very confused on one point. How much of the tangled family drama is Veronica fully aware of? Duncan's revelation that he slept with Veronica knowing she was his sister (though, I think not) seems to be destroying him, but it didn't seem to add to her pain at all.

The only two people I really felt bad for were Veronica's dad, who got stiffed on his finder's fee, and Duncan, after his proclamation that he can't stop loving Veronica.
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Yeah, I'm pretty much on the same page as you. I had trouble seeing why Veronica was into Logan *before* this. So now? Don't. Get. It. I really don't get why there was no reaction from her when we got the flashbacks showing that he was one of the guys doing shots off her...to the point where they had to put in a line later to even let us know that she knew Logan had been one of them. And I really didn't get her letting him off the hook for drugging Duncan...both because of it playing into the rape, but also because, well, after what she just went through trying to figure out who drugged her? Why would she just brush it off when it happens to Duncan? Seemed kind of callous, I thought.

Duncan's revelation that he slept with Veronica knowing she was his sister (though, I think not) seems to be destroying him, but it didn't seem to add to her pain at all.

I didn't even think of that, but you're right, that is odd. And yeah, she's had the same thoughts as Duncan, but still, you'd think throwing it out there like that would give her *more* to agonize over, not send her into giggly make-out mode with Logan. I keep thinking those scenes are supposed to be her desperately repressing everything she just found out, but I'm really not sure. There was a definite sense of "Whew! That's over, now I can move on," that felt off to me.
I really don't get why there was no reaction from her when we got the flashbacks showing that he was one of the guys doing shots off her...to the point where they had to put in a line later to even let us know that she knew Logan had been one of them.

And if the entire night was a blur to her, how did she recall that Logan was doing the shots? I don't recall anyone telling her specifically what he was doing that night. That revelation/acceptance seemed very off. Were the writers trying to reinforce his former (supposedly) bad boy ways and show us how much he's changed? I'm not feeling that.

And I really didn't get her letting him off the hook for drugging Duncan...both because of it playing into the rape, but also because, well, after what she just went through trying to figure out who drugged her? Why would she just brush it off when it happens to Duncan? Seemed kind of callous, I thought.

Good point. It's horrible that it happened to her, but she doesn't seemed bothered that Duncan is living with the guilt of having sex with his sister and that she's now hooked up with the guy responsible for that? What a great gal. :p
And if the entire night was a blur to her, how did she recall that Logan was doing the shots? I don't recall anyone telling her specifically what he was doing that night.

Well, the way the episode was structured, we don't hear the characters tell us the entire story, but once it goes to flashback we have to assume they're describing what's happening onscreen. Since in one of the flashbacks, we see Logan there, I'm assuming someone told Veronica about what he did. But yeah, the fact that there's no reaction to the flashback? Odd.

It's horrible that it happened to her, but she doesn't seemed bothered that Duncan is living with the guilt of having sex with his sister and that she's now hooked up with the guy responsible for that? What a great gal.

Heh. Like molly_may said on my LJ, apparently it's all fun and games until Veronica's the one who's been drugged.
I think you're right to be seeing red flags in the Veronica/Logan relationship at this point. She's overlooking a lot of questionable things about him at this point, and I think they're going to become major issues down the road. I'm not so troubled by her attitude at this point--she's sort of emotionally overloaded, and Logan is a holdover from a time in her life when everything was good, and I think that he still has a lot of positive associations for her that he doesn't really deserve at this point. Also, his attitude toward her is a little scary IMO, because with his mother dead (or IS SHE?) and relationship with his father rocky, he seems to be putting all of his emotional eggs in one basket, as it were, and I think he's got a really unrealistic view of who Veronica is and what she can do for him.

Veronica is aware that her mother had an affair with Jake Kane, and that she and Duncan could be siblings; she actually went so far as to have a paternity test run on her own father, but destroyed the results without looking at them in what, to me, was a rare WEF? moment in the series.
Well, at this point, don't you wish LJ had an editing feature for comments? ;)

Considering Logan's possessiveness towards Veronica and that if she abandoned him I fear what he'd do, it made me wonder about him being Lily's killer. If he had the same attitude towards Lily and he found out she was screwing around on him and considering the family history of violence, could he have snapped? I think yes, but I also don't think the show has the balls to go there. ;p
"but I just sensed something very unhealthy about his feelings towards her."

As opposed to Spike/Buffy, Lilah/Wes, and Lindsey/Angel? ::grins evilly:: There's nothing more fun than dysfunctionality between 2 pretty people.

Sure, it's unhealthy, and ftr, I didn't go 'awwww'. I think Logan's latching on to anything he can, and Veronica's doing about the same thing. At the moment of finding out, it was simply easier for Veronica to let it go. It is, however, a step forward for him that Logan's willing to go against the 09'er tide about Veronica.

Veronica already had an extreme reaction to finding out (semi) that she and Duncan were related.
"but I just sensed something very unhealthy about his feelings towards her."

As opposed to Spike/Buffy, Lilah/Wes, and Lindsey/Angel? ::grins evilly:: There's nothing more fun than dysfunctionality between 2 pretty people.


I have but one thing to say to this:

Word.
As opposed to Spike/Buffy, Lilah/Wes, and Lindsey/Angel? ::grins evilly:: There's nothing more fun than dysfunctionality between 2 pretty people.

I was actually going to draw a comparison to Spike/Buffy in how they are similar yet very different to Logan/Veronica. But, then I realized I'd be making the dreaded Buffy comparison and since I complain when I see others compare the shows/relationships, I stopped myself. For me it still comes down to the other couples (not counting Angel/Lindsey because that's just wrong! :p) being not quite human or living under extraordinary circumstances. For me, at least, when potentially ugly situations are based in 'real life' it becomes far more difficult for me to rationalize and enjoy. Not to mention, I don't really like the heroine much at all. :/
OK Starbuck!

I understand your frack issue. I once was leaving work and had a friend help me carry something out to my car. As we got to where I always park, I remembered I parked somewhere else and said, "frell" under my breath. The friend said, "I'm sorry, did you say 'Frell!?!' And what are the odds you said that to perhaps one of three people around here that actually knows what that means?"

Speaking of your guilty pleasure shows, I finally have those Season 1 Andromeda DVDs. Let me know if you wanted to borrow them before or after your trip.
Speaking of your guilty pleasure shows, I finally have those Season 1 Andromeda DVDs. Let me know if you wanted to borrow them before or after your trip.

You are joking, right? Because if you loaned them to me they'd be having a tragic accident with my microwave.
You are joking, right? Because if you loaned them to me they'd be having a tragic accident with my microwave.

Starbuck!

To quote Shakespeare, "Me thinks she does protest too much..."

Although I admit that does sound like a nice Bill Nye the Science Guy experiment....