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Podcast for 'Resistance'

As I feared, Galactica has eaten my brain this weekend. I still haven’t gotten to Archie the Horatio Hornblower movies. I will get at least one in today though.

I just finished listening to the pod cast for ‘Resistance’. For the most part, I enjoy listening to these, but Ron’s ego sometimes gets in the way of that. If he doesn’t outright say how clever he is, he heavily hints at it. And I get more than a little annoyed when I want to hear about a specific scene and he’s still going on about a scene that happened two before it because, gee, wasn’t it great what we came up with. Let us decide that, OK?



- FYI, Ron plans on going back and doing podcast for ‘Fragged’ when time permits

- The subplot of Tyrol being under suspicion as a cylon/cylon collaborater was not in early drafts of script. Later, it was decided that because Tyrol was in love with Sharon and everyone knew it that suspicion would naturally fall to him.

- There was a Sharon/Baltar storyline in which Baltar interrogates Sharon. He shows an interest in her psychologically and desires to understand her (the cylon) way of thinking to find a way to counter beings like her in the future. The writers also envisioned a bit of a Balter/Six/Sharon triangle at one point - Six not appreciating Baltar’s interest in Sharon.

- Jack Ruby was always the inspiration for Cally gunning down Boomer. They wanted her to come to a shocking end. RM explains Cally’s actions as being a result of the situation. There is a lot of anger about having Sharon on the ship. For the people, she is representative not just of her race, but the root of all the problems on Galactica - everything these people have gone through can be track backed to her in some way.

- They wanted to emphasize in this episode the informal relationship Dee has with the pilots on Galactica (RM pointed out that hers is the voice all of them hear in their communications with Galactica and that that would create a sort of bond) and that her routine of falling in step in with Lee would, therefore, be tolerated by his guards.

- OK, this is an observation I made right before RM mentioned it, but how the hell did I miss Dee checking out Lee’s ass???? She even smiles. The little hussy. Maybe it’s a good thing Billy stayed behind.

- They are putting Ellen to greater use in order to explore the husband and wife dynamic and how it can be a detriment to other people. RM pointed out how Ellen reacts to weakness in Tigh in a very predatory way

- Blame RM for the pyramid scheme (hey, I had to say it :p). He liked the absurd quality of them being a pyramid team and wanted to incorporate part of Kara’s backstory - how she wanted to be a pyramid player before becoming a viper pilot.

- Venner was used to show how the religious connection could override military training. They even toyed with the idea of keeping him around Laura, but it was decided that he served his purpose (helping free her) and that the audience wasn’t dying to see him again. I’m sure his portrayer will love hearing that.

- The incident on the Gideon was actually inspired by the Boston Massacre rather than Kent State because, like Boston, the soldiers are in a situation they are completely unprepared for.

- Laura and Lee’s escape was triggered by the shooting. They would not have been plotting a way out without reaching a breaking point.

- Did anyone else notice that the private who stops Laura in the causeway dropped a sandwich before pointing her gun at her? Apparently, after Laura and the others leave she goes back to pick up the sandwich and begins eating it showing how life goes on. Several people told RM that the segment had to go. Thank you anonymous people.

- Myself and others have already talked about Billy’s illogical and lame ass reasons for staying behind, but for those who don’t know his portrayer, Paul Campbell (?), had an opportunity to do a WB pilot (curse you again WB!) and the show was contractually obligated to let him do it. And, yes, there was a question that he may leave the show so they needed to create an option including a potential a way of killing him. Good news is the pilot wasn‘t picked up (hence why I don‘t count this as spoilage - he lives!…..for now). Originally, Billy was to accompany Laura and will be rejoining her at some point.

- Another horrible idea I was glad was cut from early drafts of the script - Ellen hanging out in the CIC. She was going to be portrayed as ‘Queen of the Ship’, having Dee fetch her coffee and bitching to Gaeta about supply shortages. And she was suppose to be there when Tigh had his standoff with Lee - goading him into taking out the raptor. Ultimately it was deemed too unbelievable. Really?

- Gaeta covers for Dee out of friendship. I’m still not sure about that.

- RM really obsessed over the parole issue and whether or not Lee broke it. Essentially, he looked for loopholes. For instance, was he off duty when plotting? He feels they skated close to the line of the finer points of honor and was surprised he received no notes on it from the network or the staff. It was more of an internal struggle for him rationalizing Lee’s actions. He wanted to keep Lee on that side of the bright shining line.

- The tension between Kara and Anders was toned down. There was too much of it, too many looks, so it was edited out.

- Adama, apparently, has no recriminations against Tigh. He accepts whatever happened happened and (in my opinion, harkening back to what he told Lee in ‘Water‘) they just have to live with decisions they make. He‘s letting Tigh off so they can move on to pick up the pieces. I really hope it’s not going to be that cut and dry.

- Cally killing Sharon really foils Baltar’s plans. His intent was to continue getting information out of her.

- A couple of random notes - there was quite a bit of green screen used in this ep and damn if I could tell. Great work by the CGI people. Ron’s also been experimenting with recording the writers meetings and once they get sound issues worked out we may be privy to the creative process.
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Thanks as always for writing these up. It's always interesting to hear the different dynamics they play with before we get the final product, and heartening that so many bad ideas get shot down. Too bad the Pyramid team made it through. *sigh* I don't know anyone who reacted to that with anything short of, "Bzuh?"

Gaeta covers for Dee out of friendship. I’m still not sure about that.

It's something I can see--he could have been warning her earlier out of friendship too, since he didn't take what he knew to Tigh. Or, you know, he could be a CYLON.

Paul Campbell's loss is our gain.

RM really obsessed over the parole issue and whether or not Lee broke it.

I find that interesting because it's such a non-issue to me. The shooting of the civilians was the tipping point, and honor is great but if it means adhering to a promise with disastrous consequences for a lot of people, it becomes pointless. I don't think any less of Lee for breaking his word, with the state things had gotten to--it just means that he values other people's lives more than his word, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad trait. I see no need to parse the specifics of the parole to see whether or not he technically broke it.
I find that interesting because it's such a non-issue to me.

Yes yes yes. You sum it up perfectly. It didn't matter to me that Lee broke his parole; I almost prefer it, because it means he's bound by what he sees as the best actions for the people, not just for the military or for the president. It means he's willing to let go of honor in order to do the right thing, which is much braver.

Asta, thanks from me, too, for typing these up. I'm really glad they cut the Ellen scenes. It's unrealistic and it also (IMO) cheapens Tigh.
I'm really glad they cut the Ellen scenes. It's unrealistic and it also (IMO) cheapens Tigh.

RM stated that it played much too broad and, imo, would have veared off into comedy. I wouldn't have been able to take seriously anything happening on the bridge. And even though Tigh has shown himself to be a horrible commander of the fleet, he has proven to make good military decisions in the past so I couldn't see him allowing Ellen to step foot in the CIC let alone have his communications officer fetch her coffee. Which, hey, they didn't even have! ;)
It's so sad that I'm managing to see nearly everyone as possibly be a cylon. It's just that I'm sure at least one of the characters we know and love is, so of course I have to rack my brain to deduce who. And I think they know we're doing this and enjoying watching us squrim. Bastards.

Paul Campbell's loss is our gain.

Definitely. It was a fricken WB show, what was he thinking?!

The parole issue seemed to pretty much be a non-issue for everyone. Given the dire situation, I couldn't have seen Lee doing anything other than what he did. How could it have been more honorable to keep your word a man that is causing innocent people to die and watch the fleet tear itself apart? Lee is still the most honorable person among them. He puts his beliefs above everything, including his own welfare. I think Ron needs to step back a bit from history. Between obsessing about the parole and the long discussion regarding the Boston Massacre, I felt like he was stuck in a time warp.
I wish they'd done the Baltar/Sharon/6 issue. That would have been all kinds of interesting and would have harkened back to Baltar being genuinely kind to Sharon right before she tries to kill herself.

I saw quite enough of Ellen, thanks. Given that Tigh was out of his depth as opposed to being completely insane, having her on the bridge would have been ridiculous.

How could PC want to leave a show critics are going crazy over and do something for the WB? The WB is the touch of death, one step above UPN.
I haven't watched yet, so I'm not actually reading your post/responses for fear of spoilage, however I've been meaning to ask what a podcast is? The term fascinates me.
I'm not exactly sure where the term came from. I know there are all types of podcasts out there including original programming. In the case of Galactica, writer/producer Ron Moore does weekly commentaries for the episodes and posts them the day of telecast on the Sci-Fi website. You then can download them and play them as you watch the ep. It's no different the commentary tracks on DVDs.
podcast = content created for "ipods"

Which irritates me linquistically because now commercials for stuff like Adelphia's new music download service say stuff like "works with your ipods and mp3 players!" (when ipods are a subset of the later)
Thanks for the info. That's one of those things that seems so obvious now. In my defense, I don't have an ipod. ;)
Thanks! That's a very clear explanation. My knowledge of tech terms is rather limited. Heck, it took me about six months in the 'X-Files' fandom to figure out what "shipper" meant. :p
heh, it took me forever to learn the same, and again, for me, it was in relationship to the x-files, lol. for all we know, scully and mulder started it all ;)
"Great work by the CGI people."

Maybe with the screens, but the launch of the raptor has to be the fake-ist thing I've seen on Sci-fi this season. Then again, I missed that vampire movie last week! :P
Oh, I've seen much faker (oh, there's good english) stuff on the 'Stargates'. The scenes I was refering to are when the raptor lands and they meet up with Zarek. Apparently it was all green screen.

I actually wanted to see that vampire movie, but ended up going to bed with a headache at 9:30. 'Entertainment Weekly' gave it a B. Color me shocked.
- OK, this is an observation I made right before RM mentioned it, but how the hell did I miss Dee checking out Lee’s ass???? She even smiles. The little hussy. Maybe it’s a good thing Billy stayed behind.

LOL, Cindy noticed it right away! I said she isn't interested in him, but she said that doesn't mean Dee can't look ;)

Thanks for detailing these for us, I do like to know the motivations behind certain things.
Hee, he probably thought being on the run would not be good for his nutritional and excercise needs :)
What bothers me about the podcasts is his casually dropping spoilers into it! GRRRR!!! I guess I'm going to have to stop listening to them. :(

OK, this is an observation I made right before RM mentioned it, but how the hell did I miss Dee checking out Lee’s ass???? She even smiles. The little hussy. Maybe it’s a good thing Billy stayed behind.

I loved RM's reaction to that. *g*

Ron’s also been experimenting with recording the writers meetings and once they get sound issues worked out we may be privy to the creative process.

I can't wait for that! It's so cool! :)
I don't mind being a little bit spoiled, but, what gets me, is how at the beginning of the commentary he'll tell you how the ep is to end. This week, for instance, dropping that Sharon would be gunned down by Cally at the end. Granted, I wouldn't think people would watch the podcasts during the first broadcast, but still, it's an odd choice to make creatively.
one thing i found really interesting about this episode was that i still found tigh to be somewhat sympathetic. you really feel bad for this poor bastard. and it's a good thing they made the creative choice to not do ellen as the queen of the ship, since that would have ruined the emotional resonance of everything else that happened in the tigh's quarters, never mind the sheer ridiculousness of it.