Asta 2

Podcast for 'Pegasus'

Yes, I’m really late in this write up (blame it on rewatching the mini series and new network TV), but here’s what I managed to cull of interest from the most recent podcast. It doesn’t really constitute spoilage imo, but I’m going to mention some of the things that were cut for time that will appear on the Season 2 DVD set.

RM has been thinking about the Pegasus storyline since he agreed to do the project.

The Director’s Cut ran 15 minutes long which is the equivalent of an acts worth of material. Get this, he actually admits the better version is the longer one. They toyed with the idea of making it a 90 minute episode, but they "couldn’t plump it out". So they went to Universal Home Video and Universal has agreed to show the longer cut when the season 2 DVDs are released.

There will be no Sheba. YAY! It was felt "too cute" of a character concept – two commanders with two kids who happened to be Viper pilots.

Cain is suppose to come off a bit crazy, but she isn’t really a bad person per se (OK, so how does the condoning rape fit into that theory?) and he liked the idea that this ‘crazy person’ then takes over your fleet.

Before Cain boards the Galactica, there was an extensive scene in the corridors with Adama, Laura, and Tigh. As they walk to greet her, Adama talks about who Cain is, how she was promoted over people, was a tough up and comer, and had taken over the Pegasus only shortly before the attack. This is one scene I will assume will be in the longer version.

A subplot about the fleet withholding supplies from the Pegasus because they were withholding help to te fleet was cut (as in never filmed). Er, didn’t we already do that anyway?

The dinner/drinking scene between Adama, Laura, and Cain was longer. Cain explained how the Pegasus avoided the Cylons infecting it’s computer systems - during the overhaul in dry dock most, if not all, computers were offline

And I quote RM. "Their CAG is a big fat hate him." Um, actually, not so much. I don’t recall anyone saying they hated the character. And it’s not like Lee and Kara were on their best behavior. BTW, the CAG’s call sign is Stinger. Did we hear that mentioned at all? I may have missed it.

In the longer version, the tension rising between pilots is played out more. We also get a scene where Cain goes to see Sharon and that segues to her meeting with with Baltar.

I thought his name was ‘Larry’, but apparently it’s Laird, the Pegasus deck chief. His murky reference to "things happened" will be explained in part two. RM also mentioned that Tyrol was relieved of his deck and became second fiddle to Laird. Whether that only appeared in script form or was filmed and cut, I’m unclear about.

RM talks about the Olympic Carrier reference and says that, in their hearts (Adama, Laura, Lee, etc) they know there were people on that ship. Doesn’t mean that’s the truth of the matter, but he feels that they would feel that there probably were.

It seems that there are no immediate plans to reveal Pegasus Six’s name on the show, but in the scripts, it’s Gina, which is a jab at those who refer to the show as GINO (Galactica In Name Only).

He makes a bit of insightful observation about Baltar - that he wants to reach out to Six, but only to the one who has been tortured and raped.

He really didn’t like the scene where it’s revealed that Apollo stole the photo recon package. RM felt it was pushing it – too much of a TV drama convention. No surprise here, but we’ll see more of Kara’s part of that particular storyline in part two.

Sharon’s attempted rape. Now, I thought this was interesting. The version we saw was as it was scripted – Sharon’s rape is averted as Tyrol and Helo get there just in time. As it was shot, she was raped, with the guys getting there as it is happening. :( Originally, I was under the impression two versions were shot, but watching the ep again the scene may have been altered in editing. The script was written by a woman, but from RM’s commentary I got the impression he tinkered with it a lot. He specifically talked about writing the Baltar/Pegasus Six scene and it seemed as if it was his decision to change it from an attempted rape to rape while shooting. I’ll give him credit for listening to whoever told him to go back to the original version, however, it worries me a bit if he’s continually uping the violence on the show.

And that's all until January folks. Stay tuned for my rather long winded posts as I rewatch Season 1. I'll explain why Lee/Laura is the best ship EVA! I kid! Sort of. ;)
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I don't have anything insightful to say. Cain reminded me of a Vulcan...and not in a good way. I didn't like the Pegasus CAG, but then my impression was I wasn't supposed to. Not that I do what I'm supposed to, lol, just did not like him. There seemed an unnecessary arrogance when they came aboard Galactica. Can't put my finger on it. Almost like how dare Galtica survive. How dare they make it on their own. I'm not saying this right. It's just this feeling I got from the crew of Pegasus.

The rape and torture is very distrubing. I know what they're trying to say, but it's distrubing none the less. Having said that and wishing there was another plotline other than tortured vitim, I'm glad the actress playing Six has something other to do than to slink around like a Cylon Femme Fatale. In the bit we saw of her on the Pegasus as the prisoner, I was impressed. Also this was the first time I did not out and out dispise Baltar.

As an impartial newer viewer and one who doesn't 'ship one way or the other, I have to say it seems more Laura/Adama then Laura/Lee. Thought that when I saw them at the big party dancing and the ep. last Friday. Now Lynn just got the DVD's and the little I've seen so far, still getting that impression. Sorry Asta! lol
There seemed an unnecessary arrogance when they came aboard Galactica.

I think there was, partly because they come from a state of the art battlestar, not one that was about to be turned into a museum, and partly because they've chosen to fight the cylons rather than run.

I can see now why Tricia was so excited about these upcoming episodes playing Gina. Not that she looked forward to playing a rape victim, but that she had something more challenging to do then play Baltar's twisted conscience..

Laura/Adama! That's just wrong. :p Granted, Lee/Laura is not as obvious as other pairings on the show, but they have their moments....which I will be pointing out. ;)
"but that she had something more challenging to do then play Baltar's twisted conscience.."

there's a better role out there than Baltar's twisted conscience?
Hee. Well, it could be debated, but Tricia made a point at the Con of talking about how because her character is only inside Baltar's head she doesn't get to interact with any of her other cast mates on screen. I had always thought about how hard it must be for the others to pretend she's not there, but I hadn't considered how difficult for her it must be. If we assume that Gina sticks around for awhile and eventually interacts with the others (I'd love to see a Gina/Sharon scene) I can see how it provides her and us with new dynamics to explore.
Yeah, a Gina/Sharon scene would be very interesting. For one thing because Gina was captured, and is presumably still on the Cylon side, whereas Sharon is a defector. I can't see Gina being very happy about Sharon's choices, once she's psychologically healed up enough to take notice of people around her. She'll see Sharon as a traitor, which she is, though naturally we the audience sympathize with her betrayal.
the two models seen to have some kind of essentialized hatred of each other to begin with, so I'm not sure it matters what sharon has or hasn't done: her "defection" is only proof of her weakness and I'm not sure that breeds anger or contempt in they eyes of the cylons. They didn't blow up the colonies because they didn't like humans.

I hadn't thought about Helfer's isolation like that (although that stupid seduce-Adama plot gave her something to do for no compelling reason; contractual?), although as far as roles go, that's like complaining about a job as an ice cream taster.