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'Who' Thoughts and A Rant You Can Feel Free to Ignore



I have to say, on second viewing, some aspects of these episodes wear thin. The Sliveen’s (sp) zipper effect is amusingly cheesy the first time you see it, but by the, oh, tenth time it’s enough already. fer1213 pointed out that Sci-Fi is making small cuts to the episodes and they’re shedding Rose/Doctor moments. I just don’t get them cutting the main attraction and leaving in redundant effects shots.

And let me get this straight, the national defense system can be hacked with the password Buffalo? Typed over and over again? I have batter password protection on my e-mail! Give us a little credit dear writers.

I know many people watching for the first time find Jackie rather annoying. I actually empathize with her a lot more this go round. Her daughter is traveling with a nine hundred year old alien she doesn’t know in a phone box through the galaxy and when she asks for some guarantee for her daughter’s safety she can’t get one. It’s understandable that Rose would desire an escape from her mundane life and choose to go on this great adventure, but it also makes sense that Jackie would be greatly concerned and voicing her opinion strongly and loudly.

As quick to condemn as the Doctor can be, once again, we see him show compassion and sympathy for the pig. Why? I think it comes down to innocence for him. The pig was taken from the life it knew, tampered with, and put into a situation it didn’t understand. The Doctor sees the same vulnerability, confusion, and fear within us – hence his determination to protect the human race. We don’t know what’s out there and how to deal with it when it hit’s home or Big Ben in this case. (And after seeing too many landmarks trashed in disaster movies, I really appreciated The Doctor’s “Hitting Big Ben, come on.” because it’s just too improbable and obvious.)

And the Doctor came off a bit unlikable at the end of WW3. He screwed up returning Rose home so it seemed as if she was missing for a year and he’s about to run off with her again after nearly causing her death and he can’t be bothered to sit down for tea with her mother? How rude! Though I think the root of his selfishness is self-preservation – trying to avoid too many connections and the emotional baggage that comes with them.

Favorite line: “You’re a very violent young women.” I think I’ve heard that myself once or twice. ;)

To anyone else who has paid any attention to those commercials for the Who DVDs coming out in July, why does it say "The Complete First Series" on the box? Isn’t this like the twentysomethingth series?

And the next series premieres this week?! Hopefully I’ll have my downloading skillz perfected by then. I was trying to download ‘Prison Break’ (somehow an ep that won’t air for two weeks is making its way around the internet). The third try was the charm, but the first attempt never got going and the second turned out to be a zip file which needed to be converted (not a problem) and then needed the password to open. Password? Yeah, the guy who uploaded it also uploaded a Read Me document that informed me I had to register at a forum to get a password and that by me not doing so already meant I was lazy and how he needed to track who was downloading his torrents. Now I have no way of uploading shows myself, but I try to do my part by leaving the torrent on my computer as long as possible to share with others. Maybe I’m overreacting, but it just seemed like this guy was on a little power trip trying to make people jump through hoops for his torrents. And considering there are numerous ones out there for this particular ep it seemed rather ridiculous.
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To anyone else who has paid any attention to those commercials for the Who DVDs coming out in July, why does it say "The Complete First Series" on the box? Isn’t this like the twentysomethingth series?

Although most of the older fans of the show are calling it the twenty-seventh, they (meaning the PTB) officially began the count over with the Ninth Doctor. Meaning this past one was the first series, the coming is the second, after that is the third, and so on.
From a marketing standpoint I suppose I can understand the PTB going the way they did, but it just didn't seem to be very fair to those fans that have been there from the beginning. And I think people, like me, who are new to the show are still aware of it's very long history. Of course, I'm also use to hearing the rather lengthy 'Season 2 of the new 'Battlestar Galactica'.
And let me get this straight, the national defense system can be hacked with the password Buffalo?

I think there were also some numbers, and the Doctor just told Mickey to use the "buffalo" password as shortcut the second time? Which is not to defend the use of "network" "security" in this episode, which was awful. A real password designed by real ops guys would be something more along the lines of DoC2oRW0ho, except with a bunch more letters and numbers and case changes. You should see what I have to type in just to build our documentation website. It takes like ten minutes.

I love Jackie to pieces. She is who she is, and she has pretty reasonable reactions to what she sees, given her experience. But I didn't for a minute expect the Doctor to give Rose's family and friends the time of day. He's very quick to become outraged on the behalf of those who can't defend themselves, most especially when they're sentient and show some promise, but he doesn't really think too highly of most of them individually, except for those that particularly catch his fancy. He's quite capable of defending the human race as a whole and not wanting to actually spend any time with 99.99999% of them. They're like a particularly intelligent and lovable pet. I don't think his selfishness is self-preservation in situations like that; it's genuine boredom, and a mind that functions on a scale of time and history far different from ours.

I am so disconnected from so much of my flist in regards to this show, since I saw so many older episodes when I was younger. It's not like my views are more credible or authoritative, but I think I don't expect the same kinds of storytelling and behavior. The Doctor is ineffably alien and old in my view, and has had so many companions before Rose, and I just feel like I have an entirely other take on the character.

I do think the "Series 1" thing is just marketing to Americans, though. And stupid. And expensive.
"The Doctor is ineffably alien and old in my view, and has had so many companions before Rose, and I just feel like I have an entirely other take on the character."

ooh, i like that you point this out. i think eccleston does a pretty good job of being credibly annoying at times and at others benevolent and goofy.

and though the doctor has had many companions before, i don't recall the others being as important as rose is in the stories, yes?
i don't recall the others being as important as rose is in the stories, yes?

The show has never, ever gone into letting there be this much chemistry between a dDoctor and companion, at least not in my viewings of it. And I think that has a lot to do with storytelling paradigms--the old show was about telling a rip-roaring sci-fi tale, and the new series are about telling more complex, character-based stories. But I think it's really interesting that the creators of the new series did explicitly choose to go there, and go there obviously.
The third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) was very close to his companion Jo. I got the impression he might have fallen in love with her. She cared for him but definitely saw him as too old so nothing ever came of it but it was there, at least on his part.

Hmmm...I need Doctor Who icons...
I have to wonder if it's the era we are living in where couples can be key to a shows success or that the Doctor's are younger and better looking (imho) that accounts for the attraction and reciprication of affection being so evident between, in this case, the Doctor and Rose?
I seem to remember a bit of 'heat" between the Tom Baker Who (curly hair big teeth, scarf) and Romana.

Apparently they were involved as real people not just characters (married and everything!)

Check the companion section here:
When I first watched 'Who' many months ago, I do recall finding Jackie very grating in the 'Rose' and hoping we had seen the last of her. So I can understand people not liking her at first. I think that now I know what she is capable of I can sympathize with her a lot more on second viewing. If Jackie was just a shrill, overbearing mother Rose would not have any hesitation to leave. She loves her mother because her mother obviously loves her. And I almost applaud Jackie hauling off and slapping the Doctor. He put her through hell for a year and that would have been my first reaction too. Plus, as you pointed out, she's just saying what's on her mind and not putting up false pretenses. I have to respect her telling it like it is.

You also make an interesting point with the Doctor about wanting to defend humanity as a whole because of our potential, yet being rather bored with many individualy. I think my view of him is colored by what I saw of him later after his little change, but I shall say no more to avoid spoilage.
Although it's a continuation of the canon and storyline and not a remake, it's been so many years since the last series that I think it's entirely reasonable, and actually less confusing to call it the first season :) So it doesn't bother me at all.
I remember from the Tom Baker years as Dr. Who he was definitely on and off with his being thoughtful or selfish, and many times was just plain rude.

I've seen various eps of various Dr.'s and I've noticed that not only is their appearance different but the personalities change as well. As an actor, each must have been given the "thumbs up" to make the character their own with a minimal set of must haves.
I'm curious if there is a definitive canon explanation regarding the Doctor's change in personality. Sure, living nine hundred years and seeing what he's seen and being forced to do what he has done is bound to change him, but is it more than that? I'm still not clear if when he regenrates he's just getting a new body or he actually becomes a different person? A combination of who he was and this new person? :/