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The Gates: Mid-Season Finales

Damn. Another episode of Atlantis that I enjoyed. This is so wrong!


I love that Cam and Teal’c are buddies. Too bad we don’t see more of that or more of Teal’c doing anything. When Vala kiddingly called him "Muscles" it came off more as a statement as to what the character has become rather than a joke.

Vala has certainly made herself at home. :) While she’s a very intelligent woman, the fact that she and Daniel came up with pivotal pieces of the puzzle at almost the exact same time had me going "Set up!".

The only person I could imagine having the power to manipulate the situation was Adria so the big reveal was, not so much. And when Ms Omnipotent repeatedly states “We should go back” it's a clear indication that she's losing her power the closer they get to their destination. Throw in that scene in which we spent how many minutes? trying to maneuver the time distortion field and this was a very unispired, lackluster mid-season cliffhanger.

Let’s praise Claudia and Cliff Simon for adding some excitement to the episode. Vala clinging to Cam’s back as they maneuvered the field was adorable. I burst out laughing when she revealed she packs her hair dryer for missions. And she was so enthusiastic about her ability to solve riddles.

I couldn't decide which I enjoyed more, Baal trapped in the force field for three days because of greed or him spilling his guts for a power bar. And I loved his delivery of “allow me to get out of your line of fire” when he realized that, for once, they weren’t intending to shoot him.

Daniel sure jumped in quickly to save Sam. Which I might say meant something if not for the fact that scene seemed poorly edited.

Adria and Baal’s bickering had me thinking ‘Get a room’, so thank you Sam for saying it. However, it was all rather odd since they just met.

Yep, there was a dragon. Anyone want to bet Adria extended her personal shield to protect all of them?


Oh Rodney you are so smart providing a direct mode of transport to earth. I’m sure the Wraith and the Replicants will love you for it.

And Rodney screwing with the Replicant’s programming came back to bite them in the ass. Color me shocked.

How can those ships fit through the Gate? They seem too big to me.

Samantha Mulder! Her being an Ancient makes far more sense than what Chris Carter came up with. ;)

I can understand how it sucks to have put in all this hard work and then to be kicked to the curb, but it was the Ancients city and they were willing to have a representative stay behind. Given how difficult it was for Weir to let go once she got back to earth, I don’t see how she could have worked successfully with the Ancients.

The thing I really liked about this episode was watching them interact as friends. It’s obvious that friendships have formed, you can’t work that closely and have gone through as much as they have together and not become close. But what they were forced to confront here was was the certainty that they weren't going to be there for each other everyday, what that meant to them, and how boring things might be without each other.

Key moments that I loved:

Ronan picking up John and moving him. Given the actors reactions I’m thinking that was ad libbed. :)

Carson attempting to share his emotions and Rodney’s cutting him off with, “You are not tearing up on me are you? Yes he’s tearing up.” I hate to admit that I have anything in common with Rodney, but that sooo sounds like me. ;)

John leading the most inept Stargate team ever - “I never thought I’d miss Rodney McKay being a member of my team.” Sure his frustration was funny, but would those guys actually be allowed off world?

Rodney and John dating! OK, not really, but even I who can’t fathom shipping them, took a moment to consider the apparently frequent phone calls, the dinner plans, and Rodney's little smile with John hung up on him and...come on!

The dinner.

Carson discovering that he showed up at the meeting uninvited.

Lee and Wier talking World of Warcraft. I no nothing about that accpet it is a game, but it still amused me.

Wallace’s sad, “You’re already going on missings without me.”

Carson lamenting his turtles fate.

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Give in... give in to Atlantis...

Yeah, SG-1 sure isn't making much use of Teal'c these days. Vala helps, and as The Hook said several times during the course of the episode, "Thank God for Baal." I'd definitely watch his show!

Meanwhile, Atlantis adds support for my growing suspicion that the Ancients were a bunch of arrogant twits. If they're actually the creators of the Wraith as well as the Duplicate Replicators, then we may well be dealing with a race of Rodneys here, and any survivors will probably be eligible for honorary membership in the Atlantis away team.

On the other hand, I'm not convinced that the Duplicators reprogramming themselves was necessarily Rodney's fault. It seems pretty arrogant for the Ancients to create a race of superbots, leave them alone for thousands and thousands of years, and assume that they'll never manage to evolve in the interim. Haven't these people watched Jurassic Park?

Much love for the huge chunk of the episode that was devoted to pure character interaction. I think they really have developed a good ensemble cast this season, but since I didn't see the first season, I don't know whether this is a new development or just a return to form.

And finally, the amusing crisis du jour: "Woolsey and O'Neill have been attacked by Duplicators! We have to save... O'Neill!"
We need the Vala and Baal show. Wasn't MGM looking for another spinoff?

So the Ancients are responsible for the Wraith and for the Replicators 2.0 who were created to help deal with the Wraith. Yeah, not really helping the universe are they? We'll probably next find out that the Goa'uld was someone's science experiment gone wrong.

Let's blame Rodney for the programming rewrite, it's fun! I have to agree with Weir though they didn't have a lot of choice at the time. It would be great if they did establish that the current situation is tied to Rodney's tinkering and they now have to face the ramifications of it. There doesn't seem to be a ton of dealing with the consequences to their actions on either show.

Was Woolsey shooting a gun in that final scene? I have to give the guy credit, he's come a long way from when I first saw him.
We need the Vala and Baal show. Wasn't MGM looking for another spinoff?

That would rock! Maybe they could even throw in Vala's spooky daughter, who I'm enjoying quite a lot for some reason. (It surely can't be her dialogue.)

I believe that the Ancients created the spider to catch the fly. I don't know why they created the fly. Perhaps we'll die.

As for Woolsey: I think that, after seeing him in Joe Dante's Homecoming, I've permanently imprinted on Robert Picardo as an evil(er) version of Karl Rove who gets beaten to death by a zombie. If he actually ends up as a semi-heroic figure on Atlantis, I think my head will probably explode.
"How can those ships fit through the Gate? They seem too big to me."

There's two gates: the one they have in the SGC is built to scale and actually rotates; the one's they have on other planets are cardboard or something and are about 60% as big. So your sense of scale gets warped around a bit. But the jumpers do technically fit through the "real" gate, although I think it would actually crash into the SGC ramp unless they removed that first.

"Lee and Wier talking World of Warcraft. I no nothing about that accpet it is a game, but it still amused me"

I've *never* played one second of WoW, but I do know that the expansions level cap is 70, not 75, and mage is not a "race," it's a vocation. If they're going to bother going THAT far, it's stupid not to get it right. OK, that's rather neckbeard, but still... I swear, I've never played it. My brother worked at the University of Charleston for a year and said that all of the football players there were into it, always talking about how they just found a finkle knife or how they killed foozle. Things are so different now.

And god I was hoping there wasn't an actual CGI dragon. PFFFT! Why end on THAT note! And how insulting was it that no one mentioned Indian Jones, Last Crusade during the Faith challenge?

All in all a good night, though! I mean, it sure beat the Daniel being kidnapped by contras midseason cliffhanger.
OK, all I knew of WoW was the name and that it was a game. Your knowledge scares me a little. ;)

I still question the ship flying through the Gate. The pilots would have to be the best pilots ever because there cannot be much extra clearance room.

I hadn't thought about the Indiana Jones 'tribute'. I was too distracted by the Monty Pythonesqe look of the episode and waiting for a vicious rabbit to attack. And was it just me or were the riddles lame? I figured them out pretty quickly and I generally suck at riddles.

I missed the contras. I'm not sorry about that.
If you really want to be scared, talk to mr.mir. He's playing as we speak.

SG-1 was a fine D&D campaign...in fact, I may well have played it. Yes, I'm a geek in my own special way.

Baal doing anything is fine and dandy by me. I include 'reading the phone book' in this list, especially if he wears the black leather outfit :)

The promo for BSG is scaring me, what with Adama glaring at me from the bottom of my television screen.
I don't recall the Adama glaring. Now if it had been Lee, I would have remembered. ;)
And how insulting was it that no one mentioned Indian Jones, Last Crusade during the Faith challenge?


I mentioned it! You mean, you couldn't hear me yelling at my television?

(and you'd think one archaeologist would give a shoutout to another, lol)
Maybe they were too fearful of the Lucas posse of attorneys swarming in.
Ugh, don't make me think about the Care Bears!

::shudders::

Let's get back to pondering sexy archaeologists with faith instead ;)
I couldn't decide which I enjoyed more, Baal trapped in the force field for three days because of greed or him spilling his guts for a power bar. And I loved his delivery of “allow me to get out of your line of fire” when he realized that, for once, they weren’t intending to shoot him. <

Thank god for Baal. At that point in the proceedings, I was nearly unconscious from boredom and annoyanace at the whole stupid Grail-quest thing - he really livened things up.

The World of Warcraft gag was the only element that really bothered me about the Atlantis ep, which otherwise did that weird thing again of being so much better of SG-1 these days - was it really necessary to a) make Lee seem that stupid, in that he couldn't tell Weir was bluffing about knowing anything about WoW, and b) have Weir play the flirtation card? Hey, Elizabeth, Star Trek 5 called - get ready for the fan dance next!

That moment where Ronon picked Shep up? Oh, my. Yes, I suddenly did want to read the slash. I'm sold. : )
I can see why Baal is danceswithwords TV boyfriend now. ;-)

The Lee/Weir thing was weird and uncomfortable. Not only could he not see she she was faking it ;p, but he didn't question why Rodney was on the other side of the room being very sneaky while all this was going on?

Did you have to bring up the fan dance?! ::shudders::

I can't see Rodney/John at all, but Ronan/John...maybe. ;)
Oh Rodney you are so smart providing a direct mode of transport to earth. I’m sure the Wraith and the Replicants will love you for it.

Hee! That was my first thought too. These people so need a risk assessment officer.

I loved this ep! My favorite one since Sateda! :)
The SGA team have all these brilliant ideas at the time and then months later, Oops! Why has no one looked at their track record?
And I loved his delivery of “allow me to get out of your line of fire” when he realized that, for once, they weren’t intending to shoot him.

That was great. And for some reason I was able to handwave them working with Baal with more ease than the blase attitude they seemed to have about joining forces with Adria. But I think Atlantis had a stronger showing for the night. ITA about the strength of the Atlantis crew's friendships coming through and making the episode.
I did wonder why no one asked if the rest of the Baal's were around somewhere? And was that THE Baal and not one of his clones? Yes, I know, I think too much about this. It happens when I'm deprived of new BSG!
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The Hair dryer cracked me up. Where will she plug it in!?
Yeah the navigation...zzzzzzzzznot a very impressive maze was it. And I expected top see at least one jaffa stuck.
They should have remembered the Gaurdian. They knew it was coming. Of course they wouldnt get the red glowy thing straight away.

Atlantis: Yup, thats great. Now anyone can eaaaaaaasssssssssily get to Earth. And when they saw the ship going light speed, did it not occur to them that it could be Replicators? Did they check. Seems like a plan to me. Track the Daedalus out into the gulf, oh look whats all that, pretend the hyperdrive is knackered, flash by them at light speed and attract their attention. They come running up and you put on the 'Ohh we are poor little orpahn ancient waifs *puppy dog eyes*'
Cos I mean, the chances of them meeting, in that much space? Nooooooo way.

You are right about the puddlejumpers. when you go to the inside hots, they seem too big. Puddlejumper Tardises?
I would have been amused if we found a few of the Baal clones stuck in the maze.

Cos I mean, the chances of them meeting, in that much space? Nooooooo way.

Seriously. I mean, we'd be hard pressed to bump into a ship in our own solar system, so to do it in a galaxy....um, no.

Being new to the shows I thought maybe there was some explanation for how the puddle jumpers got through the Gates. Perhaps some technology that shrunk them a bit before entering? After all, the Gate technology allows for atoms to be disbursed and put back together. But it seems to be another one of those things with no logic behind it. :/