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BSG S3 Ep 2: Exodus Pt 1

Well, this is much shorter than last week’s recap and rant free!



A little background as I understand it, ‘Exodus’ was, at one point, one episode that grew to be too big so it got split into two. And from the *really* long previouslies and the repeated scenes from ‘Occupation/Precipice’ it’s obvious they had to fill some time.

One hour earlier? Here we go again! Btw, in chat last week, danceswithwords, sdwolfpup, brynnmck and I called it that it was the humans doing the shooting and not the Cylons.

Let me get this straight, Tyrol's wife has been taken, he’s caring for a baby, planning a battle/rescue/evacuation and he takes the time to shave???

Best line of the ep, Tigh to Tyrol: “The last thing your son wants is me and Ellen for parents.” Funny, but also touching. Tigh’s telling Tyrol that, if it came to it, they’d take care of his son.

Er, didn’t Cally get cut loose by Jammer, fall down a hill, then run into woods last week?

Stargate alumni alert! The guy who found the map and hauled Ellen into the tent has played a significant role on SG1, but I can't recall the character name.

Second best line of the ep, Zarek (or should I say Tom ;) to Laura: “Been awhile since I had a woman throw me to the ground.” Hee! And I found it very interesting that even though he’s still the VP, he totally yielded authority to Laura, especially since he’s the one with the knowledge about blowing stuff up.

D’Anna is having prophetic dreams. I’m trying to decide if I should tie this to Laura’s Chamalla induced dreams in season 1 and early season 2.

Baltar can’t get it up. Wow. Never though that day would come. ;)

Baltar and Six really seem to have a love/hate relationship now. She obviously still loves him, but has watched him “slip down the well of self-hatred” and further away from her over the past four months. She also seems angry she's getting nothing in return from him emotionally when she's sacrificed so much for him out of love. And Baltar needs her, not just to protect him, but because she is the only person left who gives a damn about him. Yet, he’s grown to hate what she represents.

Kara is in sight of Colonial One? And the moppet has sucked her in. I was actually fine with that scene until the kid pulled her back. Unfortunately, I can’t say it was for Leoben’s benefit since I don’t think she knew he was standing there.

The Lee/Adama scene I liked, a lot actually. It was in character for both men and I’m not sure they’ve ever shown quite so much affection for each other. Adama’s comment to Lee about not making him cry on the deck was a pretty open and honest remark from him. And utilizing the ‘Hand of God’ music was a nice touch, bringing us back to another important father/son bonding moment. My one complaint (and, no, it’s not the dinner crack since I don’t think it was meant to be taken that way) was when Jamie/Lee struggled to climb the ramp to the raptor and then we got a clear shot of the very, very bad padding it took me out of the moment.

Even D’Anna knows Jake. That is one popular dog. Of course, dog spelled backwards is god. Sorry, I had to say it. ;)

Cottle!

Cavil has been downloaded three times and each time the pain is worse. That is very interesting. Can a Cylon reach a point where they can no longer be downloaded? Or do they have the potential to turn into something like Scar? Corrupted by pain, anger, and bitterness?

Anders goes from being above ground talking to Sharon to below ground strategizing with Laura in record time. Talk about a bad edit. And I think Anders put two and two together as to why Isis is so damn important.

The look on Tigh’s face when he finds out about Ellen’s betrayal is just heartbreaking. I have to wonder if he can ever recover from any of this now.

Such a huge moment for Sharon, betraying her people while at the same time finding out that she’s been betrayed by the man she put all her trust in. Sharon, just ask Kara, yes, Adama does lie.

Captain Kelly!

Yeah, big speech, rally the troops, blah, blah. Let's get to the fighting!

I wasn’t blown away by this ep, it felt like a lot of set up for next week as well as future storylines, but I can’t say I was bored or not entertained. Plus, no rage! :)

And here are some links you may be interested in:

Gateworld has posted that there will be two ‘Stargate’ films released direct to DVD and may possibly air on TV.

And Part 1 of a video Q&A with Mary answering questions posted at the Sci-Fi board. It’s worth watching (if you can) just to hear her talk about the towel scene. Interesting tidbit, she wears her own glasses on the show.
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JAKE IS THE CYLON GOD!

...no I haven't seen the episode yet...

But, CAPTAIN KELLY! I always thought he was kind of cute, in an I'd like to give you a hug, kinda way. Oh, wait, we're not supposed to find chubby men attractive in this show, it's supposed to mean they're weak and selfish. D'oh! :p
I was going to say something about you spoiling yourself, but, DUH!

Oh, wait, we're not supposed to find chubby men attractive in this show, it's supposed to mean they're weak and selfish.

Hee! We'll see if he gets any lines next week. I think he pops up from time to time just to show the audiance that others besides the main cast have survived since the mini. Good grief, does that mean Boxey will make a return? :/

Of course, if Capain Kelly is still alive and he outranked/outranks Helo how/why did Helo become XO over him? Hmmmmm...

Of course, if Capain Kelly is still alive and he outranked/outranks Helo how/why did Helo become XO over him? Hmmmmm...

I was wondering this. Same way I was wondering how so many people on Pegasus had left that Dee a lieutenant with less than a year's experience was an XO. I would hope the answer is that Captain Kelly didn't want to be the XO, but I fear that it's a continuing theme. Captain Kelly wasn't qualified - his excess bodyfat means that the ship's gravity has a greater effect on him, and since time is basically affected by gravity, he's kinda slow, and generally too stupid to be awarded any great responsibility...
i don't think adama knows hera is alive. my take on it is that roslin and cottle did it, and that she decided she won't let him in on it, just like she didn't let him in on the fact that she was going to steal the election. he found out and was all like WTF, woman? laura has, as far as i'm concerned anyways, decided she'll sell her soul to the devil if that's what it takes, but she won't drag ppl down with her. the least of all adama.

awwww! papa!adama and fat!lee moment. i really liked that. i had tears in my eyes.

as i did during the "hey tigh, your wife's a fuckin' traitor" moment. i felt just so awfully sorry for tigh. he just didn't see it coming. and there was such pain in his eyes the moment he realized what she had done. not just betraying them, but EVERYTHING. and i think i could sense a little bit of guilt too, because she said she did it for him.

roslin/zarek! dude! dude! he's got the biggest crush on her. like, evah! :D

poor sharon! :(

mary was adorable! can't wait to see the other parts (grace got 3). i knew those were her glasses. she had them in donnie darko as well!
I don't remember if Adama knows about Hera either. It would be completely in character for Laura to do that on her own.
i've been so debating that back and forth with my brother. he thinks adama knows, i say he doesn't. regardless, i think laura's gonna have hell to pay for that.
I don't know if Adama knows or not. I think she may have consulted him on that (security issues being one concern) or maybe Cottle felt compelled to tell him, but, then again, I see your point as to why she would not have said anything. What struck me was Sharon's comment about Adama not lying to her. We have several instances, the story about earth being the most prominent, when Adama has lied and we know how Kara responded to that. If Sharon discovers Adama did know, it could get ugly.

I need a Zarek icon. I'm seriously loving the guy right now. I'm anxious to see where he's going to fit into everything after the fleet reunites. It would be fascinating to see him be Laura's ally or vice versa.
he could know, that's def a possibility. i just don't think he does. or, maybe he learned about it later. it'd be an interesting as a shift in their relationship (roslin and adama's), if he found out during the missing year. he forgave her for the election, but would he forgive her for THIS?

i'm very curious to see what will sharon do. i mean, on one hand there's gonna be the obvious "omgs! you didn't kill our little girl, i love you laura", but then "you frakkin' bitch, i'm gonna rip your guts out and feed them to jake the dog". i can't wait to see that. and if adama knows... there's gonna be hell to pay.

i totally dig zarek. i hope we'll see more of him in the future. and i def hope what we've seen thus far has been a setup for a future roslin-zarek alliance of some sort.
Funny, but also touching. Tigh’s telling Tyrol that, if it came to it, they’d take care of his son.

Yes! It's amazing how much they've made me love and appreciate Tigh and Ellen so far this season. For one thing, those two actors are just locked in on their parts right now.
I've always had a fondness for Ellen, but it's always been in more the love to hate vein. Now I just feel so sorry for her and for Tigh. I think there is a sense of hope for everyone else, but, for those two, I don't know how they recover.
I think what's happening with Ellen and Tigh is simply heartbreaking, and the actors have just completely sold this. The whole idea that One Eyed Tigh didn't see this coming has to be pretty intentional, and I'm curious to see if the podcast addresses this.
Tigh is usually pretty aware of his wife's activities. Of course, he does have much bigger things to concern himself with right now. While he may have had some suspicions as to how he got out of the detention center, there is no way he would have suspected her of leaking information as she did.
Tigh’s telling Tyrol that, if it came to it, they’d take care of his son.

Because Tigh is AWESOME. I love how much other people are actually caring about him this season. *hearts* And the show has made me really like Ellen, too, which I *never* thought would happen. She was always my safe bet for the one character I'd never like on BSG!

Cavil is now that character, btw. And snotty, snotty Doral, saying how humanity wasn't noble. WTF, Doral?! Did you forget the part where you've basically enslaved the humans? And I don't buy for a second that Doral believes in the same things Caprica and Sharon do. That scene made me really, really hate the cylons again.

And, yeah, it's interesting how Roslin is still the Presiden, isn't it? Heh.
WTF, Doral?! Did you forget the part where you've basically enslaved the humans?

Yeah, leaving one of their enslavers to suffer is soooo much worse than wiping out twenty billion people. With D'Anna starting to question things (and I don;t know if that is a good thing or a bad thing at this point) it seems like the Cylons may start going at each other which would be good for the fleet.

Roslin was acting very much like the president and Zarek seemed to have no issues with that. Maybe he realizes that this is more power than he really wants? Or maybe he doesn't want to have to make the tough calls? It will be interesting to see how the government sorts itself out.
Er, didn’t Cally get cut loose by Jammer, fall down a hill, then run into woods last week?

YES, gods damn it, THANK YOU. Now I know i'm not crazy.

Pretty much thought the same as you. Decent episode, not fantastic, but good.
There was some weird ass editing in this weeks episode. Maybe the regular editor came down with the flu. Or maybe it was the director. I'm not sure who directed this ep, but something was very off structurally.

And, OT, your screen name much amuses me. :)
Baltar can’t get it up. Wow. Never though that day would come.

I missed that! I had trouble making out the audio a couple of times with this one; I obviously missed some gems! (Including the parent comment to Tyrol -- AWWWW.)

The downloading reluctance thing is interesting. It's better for the storytelling if there's a downside to being killed for the Cylons, too, but I'm curious if they're going somewhere with this.

Such a huge moment for Sharon, betraying her people while at the same time finding out that she’s been betrayed by the man she put all her trust in. Sharon, just ask Kara, yes, Adama does lie.

Does he know, though? I have no doubt that there's an interesting twist of the Adama/Sharon thing ahead when she finds out that her baby didn't die, but I seem to remember that it was Roslin who made that call, and we saw Cottle and Tory involved. Maybe I'm misremembering. But I'd have no trouble believing that she left Adama out of that particular decision-making process...
Six is telling Baltar it's alright if they can't, ya know, and he gets upset becasue he sees her as being condescending.

It's better for the storytelling if there's a downside to being killed for the Cylons, too, but I'm curious if they're going somewhere with this.

Right now I'd say no. Ron commented in the podcast that that was an interesting comment by Cavil telling me that a) it was the writers idea and not his and b) they didn't discuss it being significant.

I don't know if Adama knows about Hera, I think the odds are about even he does. But what struck me was Sharon saying he wouldn't lie when we know Adama has lied in the past if he feels it's for the greater good. So I'm very interested to learn if he did know and, if so, how Sharon will react to that especially since she spent the last year bonding with the man.
Let me get this straight, Tyrol's wife has been taken, he’s caring for a baby, planning a battle/rescue/evacuation and he takes the time to shave???
Hee! Nice one. I picked up the Cally continuity error, but not Tyrol (he's so boring to look at that clearly I don't look at him?).

I'm glad you were pretty ok with the Lee/Adama scene--otherwise I would have thought myself hideously fickle and soppy. Ok, I AM soppy, but I like to think not so fickle. ;-)

The look on Tigh’s face when he finds out about Ellen’s betrayal is just heartbreaking. I have to wonder if he can ever recover from any of this now.
Yes, I wonder that too. That was very well played.

Cavil has been downloaded three times and each time the pain is worse. That is very interesting. Can a Cylon reach a point where they can no longer be downloaded? Or do they have the potential to turn into something like Scar? Corrupted by pain, anger, and bitterness?
Yes, lots to speculate about there. It's really good to know, actually, and could provide a lot more dramatic tension in the future if they use that.