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Stargate Season 4

Because danceswithwords has irreversibly contaminated me, I’ve been continuing to watch Stargate on Sci-Fi. Having hit Season 4 the show has evolved from simply being background noise for me to experiencing, on occasion, an eagerness to see how a plot is resolved. I watched about ten episodes this weekend. Not all in one sitting. I don’t like it that much.

Window of Opportunity - It’s the ‘Groundhog Day’ ep! Damn that movie. Every sci-fi/fantasy show now has a compulsion to have an ep where time loops. This one was handled pretty well. I was somewhat bored with the first half, but after Daniel pointed out to Teal’c and Jack that it must be great to do anything you want and get away with it it got interesting - meaning funny. My favorite bits were hitting the golf balls through an active gate and Jack handing Hammond his resignation in order to make out with Sam. I don’t know what the hell was with Jack’s outfit there though.

Watergate - The Sci-Fi bastards skipped airing this ep. Grrr since I think it was pivotal. I shall read the Gateworld recap.

First Ones - Daniel was taken captive by a Star Trek reject Unas. They bond, of course, thus saving Daniel’s life. Utterly predictable, but watching Daniel doing a bad job of hiding the tape recorder was amusing.

Scorched Earth - Or what happens when good intentions go really, really bad. I had high hopes for this ep because there was some really interesting conflict and debate going on amongst the team, particularly Jack and Daniel. Both had valid points and how do you decided which race has the right to survive when they can not coexist? I was eager to see them make the tough choice. Yes, I forgot this was ‘Stargate’. In the last five minutes not only do Daniel and Lotan at the very last possible moment come up with a plan to save the Enkarans, but they found their long lost home world too! Sigh. It kind of ruined the ep for me.

Beneath the Surface - An OK ep. I’m still a little unsure why it took Jack longer then the rest to start regaining his memories. I actually found it a little insulting. Yes, Jack is more likely to accept things at face value, but this seemed extreme. And the one thing that was nagging at him was his feelings for same. ::rollseyes:: I did find the explanation on why the mind wipe didn’t work on Teal’c to be nifty because it actually made sense to me! And Sam leaning on Jack’s shoulder was pretty darn cute.

Point of No Return - Martin, nice to meet you! I liked this episode quite a lot. Enough to keep it on the DVR to burn to DVD along with ‘200’. I’ve seen ‘Wormhole Extreme’ too, but I have to admit that ep didn’t wow me. Favorite moments: Teal’c having a blast on the vibrating bed. Chris Judge is so good when they actually give him material to work with. I think he’s been more screwed over than Bamber and Helfer combined. And Jack’s line, “Sounds like a good idea for a TV show. If you’re into that sort of thing.” Hee!

Tangent - Bored Now. Too much techno babble and there’s no real drama when you know they won’t kill off two stars of the show. Even Teal’c’s moment of telling Jack he’s like a brother to him fell flat for me since all their actions on the show have already told us this.

The Curse - Poor Daniel. Every woman he gets involved with ends up with a Goa’uld in them. And, come to think of it, Vala had one in her. Um, yeah, that’s about all I got here.

The Serpent’s Venom - Apophis is SG-1’s version of the cosmic cockroach. They just can’t kill him. And their big plan, of course, goes wrong and now he’s even stronger. Maybe Jack is right about hauling in the Tok’ra all the time. Though, it does give us the opportunity to see Jacob who I’m really growing to like. Yes, I know he dies. I was also amused that Jack was allowed to tag along because he really served no specific use to the mission. RDA did a great job of portraying Jack’s feelings of being marginalized.

Chain Reaction - Hammond resigns and Jack must make a deal with the devil to bring him back. Predictable, yet entertaining.

2010 - Another ep I really, really enjoyed. I love what if? scenarios so they had me at hello, well, Sam’s lunch with some guy we didn’t know. And while, again, there wasn’t any real consequences to their deaths because we knew they had to succeed I was still sad to see their future selves go. There’s just something about seeing characters you like dead even if you know it’s only temporary. My one big quibble is for the ep only being ten year sin the future society seemed to have advanced too quickly.

Absolute Power - This was the second time I had seen this ep. The first time they lost me half way through. This time I fell asleep. It’s was obvious that it was all in Daniel’s head. My other problem is, sorry to Shanks fans, I didn’t think he is up to playing Evil!Daniel.

I watched ‘Prodigy’ this evening, but still haven’t seen ‘The Light’ so I shall stop here for continuity’s sake. :)
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I was somewhat bored with the first half, but after Daniel pointed out to Teal’c and Jack that it must be great to do anything you want and get away with it it got interesting - meaning funny.

I kind of liked the bit before that where Jack and Teal'c were both studying Ancient too, mostly because it was a sign of how desperate they were to stop this awful looping. Teal'c's reactions were understated but hilarious throughout, especially when he went from trying not to whap the airman to actively punching him out from frustration.

Takehome from "Watergate": The Russians have a gate and a DHD but can't really afford to run the program. They get into trouble almost immediately and call SG-1 in for help. Maybourne has been selling the Russsians the history of the American stargate program. Marina Sirtis rocks. This is only important later because the SGC ends up having to destroy their gate and they lease the Russian one.

"The First Ones": It's a fairly dumb episode, but it comes up again multiple times, believe it or not.

"Scorched Earth": Yeah, they did have the opportunity to explore some tough choices there, and they didn't. Welcome to Stargate. *sigh*

Yes, Jack is more likely to accept things at face value, but this seemed extreme

I would actually argue with this, but it may be that later seasons have changed my perception of the character. Jack has, in my experience, actually been fairly consistent in his skepticism, but I think he gets more bitter as time goes on. (And he ends up really distrusting the Tok'ra, with good reason.)

Poor Daniel. Every woman he gets involved with ends up with a Goa’uld in them. And, come to think of it, Vala had one in her.

Yeah, it's actually quite the pattern. Sam's love interests die and Daniel's all have snakes in their heads.

There’s just something about seeing characters you like dead even if you know it’s only temporary. My one big quibble is for the ep only being ten year sin the future society seemed to have advanced too quickly.

The beautiful thing about this episode is that they go back and address the alternate what if, and your quibble.

I will now go somewhere dark and quiet to come to terms with the fact that I have just given a lengthy and detailed response to your Stargate observations, and that I have multiple icons to choose from.
This is only important later because the SGC ends up having to destroy their gate and they lease the Russian one.

Leasing a gate? That amuses me. So, is it the main gate that gets destroyed (the thought of which makes me surprisingly sad) or the other gate in Antarctica?

(And he ends up really distrusting the Tok'ra, with good reason.)

Hmmmm, interesting. I've already seen a shift in his attitude from him along the lines of 'Do we have to involve them?' to 'I told you not to involve them!' Part of this I thought had to do with the fact that Jack would rather they not have to rely so heavily on outside sources for help. But he seems to look more kindly on the Asgaard (sp) which could be because he has a certain amount of affection for Thor and the Asgaard seem to have quite a bit of respect for the humans and Jack in paricular. (I wish I knew a bit more of the Asgaard and Tok'ra storylines, but, again, Sci-FI skipped episodes when airing the earlier seasons.)

Oh, I know about '2001' and am looking forward to that ep. :)

and that I have multiple icons to choose from.

Just last night I was thinking I need to get some more icons. Sigh.
So, is it the main gate that gets destroyed (the thought of which makes me surprisingly sad) or the other gate in Antarctica?

I'm having a hard time remembering, since there's one point where they're going through gates like Kleenex, but I think the Russian gate was actually originally the Antarctic gate and they recovered it from the wreckage where SG-1 had crashed Thor's ship into the Pacific to stop the replicators. Or maybe that happened later.

Part of this I thought had to do with the fact that Jack would rather they not have to rely so heavily on outside sources for help. But he seems to look more kindly on the Asgaard

Part of Jack's harsh attitude toward the Tok'ra stems from the fact that he just really, really, really dislikes the Goa'uld and doesn't trust the idea of a positive, voluntary symbiote/host relationship. Part of it also stems from the fact that while SGC and the Tok'ra are allies in the fight against the Goa'uld and have the same final aim, there's a lot of conflict around methods, and the Tok'ra have at various times kept important secrets, withheld technology, fouled SGC missions up with their plans, and otherwise been less than straight with them. Whereas the Asgard are honest allies, try to help when they can, and Thor is just awesome. Plus--they named a ship after Jack.
ha! you're watching SG1. for some reason that makes me smile! :)

my biggest problem with the show is that there aren't REALLY any consequences. really shitty things happen to them in the eps, but by next week they're themselves again. sometimes their actions carry weight, in the sense that things will come back to bite them in the ass later, but more often than not they just save the day... again... and move on. it irks me.

window of opportunity is one of my all time fave SG1 eps. it's just plain silly, and everytime i watch it i laugh and laugh. at the goofy parts, obviously. then again, i have a weakness for groundhog day and can watch the movie ten times in a row without getting bored. :D
Right now I'd say my biggest problem is the same as yours. I guess I've been spoiled by 'Farscape' and BSG in that the humans do make bad, destructive, deasly choices and have to deal with the consequences. 'Stargate' has had opportunities to make things messy and then they come up with a solution at the last minute so the characters, and us, can feel better about everything. It only makes sense that the team would do some damage in their travels instead of (for the most part) making things better for everyone.

I do think they did a pretty good job of Jack dealing with his grief over the death of his son which was a significant plot point in the first season. And they have never forgoten that he had a son...unlike some shows have. ;p
the fact that they always save the day bothers me to no end. it's the same reason i got tired of the trek series (aside deep space nine). it bothers me to have the same type of thing recycled and served every week. and it bothers me that none of the things that happen to them affect these ppl. am thinking that if i had died/resurected as many times daniel had, it'd affect me psychologically. it's traumatizing, it changes ppl. he was his old self one epsiode later.

well, i think that there's a HUGE difference between what happened to jack's son and what happened do zak (i'm assuming you're talking about bsg here, feel free to thwap me and ignore the rest of the comment if not). jack's kid died at an early age, in a stupid stupid accident for which jack felt imensely responsible (it had been his gun). zak was a grown man (young, but an adult) when he died. adama can blame himself, and kara can blame herself too, but basically it was zak's fault: he wasn't a good enough pilot. by the time of the attacks 2 years have passed since his death, and considering the kind of world these charactes live in, i'd wanna bang my head agains a wall if zak were brought up every single episode. he's dead, can't be resurected, and the survival of the human race is at stake. he had been brought up when the situation called for it, and that's fine by me. adama is angsty enough as it is. :D

sorry for the long reply... gah!
I love reading your thoughts on the Stargate eps you watch. :)