Frakking Kidding Me - jenahville

Doctor Who



Just an upfront warning, I am going to be brutally honest in my feelings on this episode. I debated whether to post anything, but unlike SGA I have been watching Doctor Who for the past three seasons and, therefore, feel like I can vent. The short version is I hated, hated, hated this episode. If I could get the hour back of my life I would. I think they owe me a trip in the Tardis to do just that.

The bullet points of disgust:

* One Year Later. Really? This was my first (of many) "You've got to be kidding me?" moments. If you are going to rip off another show, don't pick one that is still on the air, did the same plot twist roughly a year ago and, imho, did it better. If had just been a time jump maybe I could have let it go, but that coupled with the human race being enslaved by a bunch of robotic creatures, um, no.

* What a waste of the cast. I thought the old age makeup was bad enough, but then we get some truly embarrassing CGI. Golum in a suit? It would have been nice if the Doctor got to play a significant role in the finale. And John Barrowman/Jack gets a few brief scenes of being chained up or shooting a gun before being revealed as the Face of Boe. Actually, I'm not 100% sold that he is. It could be just a joke, a coincidence. Though, in New New York when Boe reveals to the Doctor he is not alone, Jack would have that knowledge. For me, it strikes me as a sad end to the character - a man so eager to be part of the universe, confined to a big fish tank. However, the big head is appropriate. ;)

* My affection for Martha has been eroding as the season progressed. To the bitter end she had to profess her love for the Doctor, even to complete strangers. (Did they really need to know that for the plan to work?) And on the surface she got to be heroic, but what did she really do other than exactly what the Doctor told her to do? Now she has apparently left and I sat here thinking I'm not going to miss her. Ultimately, she was one wasted opportunity after another. I'll give her a small bit of credit for remembering that her goal was to become a doctor and that she would have been a hypocrite for not following her own advice. Maybe the Doctor will come back and find her shacked up with Tom. I liked Tom.

* I was a little embarrassed for John Simms. He's a better actor than the material here. I just couldn't take the Master at all seriously.

* Didn't they establish in the previous episode that the Master was using the satellites to control people's minds and that accept for a small percentage of people it worked? Yet, he didn't pick up at all that there was a growing resistance in which a single word would give the people and the Doctor the power to defeat him?

* So the Doctor who's as near death as he can get regenerates into his former self and rises into the air in a big ball of light, arms reaching out......oh...good...grief. They're making him Christ-like? God-like? The Doctor is no longer humanities helper, he's our savior. I'm insulted.

* Why did the Master keep Martha's family alive? To humiliate them? To use them to get to Martha? Then why not do that sooner before she traveled the world to get the masses to rise up against him?

* Speaking of the world traveling, HOW? I'm guessing there was no more air travel. Shipping would have been monitored closely. And only a select few had permission to drive. Yet, she got around the world in a year?

* Does anyone know what the deal is with Ms Lucy in the sky with diamonds? Last week she seemed to be part of the Master's schemes and this week she walks around wearing a red dress and black eye and doesn't speak. As if the Master wasn't evil enough, they had to turn him into a wife beater. Or was he? I'm guessing that was her picking up the Master's ring at the end. Was she playing the role of wronged wife eager for revenge for the Doctor's benefit? Did she actually shoot him to save him from being the Doctor's prisoner?

* Just when I thought the show couldn't get any slashier, it could! WOW. The Master commenting on dying in the Doctor's arms. The Doctor begging him to regenerate because he couldn't let him go. The tears! He wasn't this broken up when Rose left.

* Oh, I also loathed the "I forgive you." One, because I saw that coming, and, two, because I'm growing quite tired of shows telling us we have to forgive. No, we really don't always have to.
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Heee! I didn't hate it quite as much as you, but I did greatly enjoy reading your rant. Very cathartic.

I hate Jack so I found him ending up as the Face of Boe completely cracktastically hilarious and wonderful.

I'll give her a small bit of credit for remembering that her goal was to become a doctor and that she would have been a hypocrite for not following her own advice. Maybe the Doctor will come back and find her shacked up with Tom. I liked Tom.
I second that. I liked her decision at the end of the ep, but I didn't need to see her play unrequited love for the rest of the season. I hope she sees sense and gets together with Tom.

They're making him Christ-like? God-like? The Doctor is no longer humanities helper, he's our savior. I'm insulted.
Yeah, I hated that too.

Yet, he didn't pick up at all that there was a growing resistance in which a single word would give the people and the Doctor the power to defeat him?
That was my biggest problem with the episode. He knew that Martha had a following, but not the Doctor? Come on! That's ridiculous. No way all those millions of people could have somehow 'hidden' that thought from his detection. I could not suspend disbelief.
I didn't see any rave reviews for this one. Even those that found it enjoyable had several WTF? moments, so I think I'm safe from enraging folks. ;)

I like Jack on 'Who', but don't get me started on his characterization on 'Torchwood'.

He knew that Martha had a following, but not the Doctor? Come on! That's ridiculous.

Yep. And as I saw someone pointed out on another LJ, the scientist we were introduced to was the only one person in a years time that was willing to sell out Martha to save a family member? Again, ridiculous.
They're making him Christ-like? God-like?

I think it was supposed to be a pun on Archangel, the name of the network. He embodied the network, therefore...

Maybe the Doctor will come back and find her shacked up with Tom. I liked Tom.

I hated the scene where she made sure Tom was still around and THEN she left. It was as if she had to make sure there was a cute, available guy just for her before she could find the strength to leave the Doctor.

two, because I'm growing quite tired of shows telling us we have to forgive. No, we really don't always have to.

I hated that too. As I said before, I thought Jack had the right idea with breaking the Master's neck the week before. Some things, I find unforgivable.
I think it was supposed to be a pun on Archangel, the name of the network. He embodied the network, therefore...

I think you're thinking more about this than the writers. ;)

I hated the scene where she made sure Tom was still around and THEN she left. It was as if she had to make sure there was a cute, available guy just for her before she could find the strength to leave the Doctor.

Maybe it was best if we hadn't seen Tom again. After all, when the Doctor reset time I just assumed he, along with the billions of others who died, were fine.
One Year Later. Really? This was my first (of many) "You've got to be kidding me?" moments. If you are going to rip off another show, don't pick one that is still on the air, did the same plot twist roughly a year ago and, imho, did it better

According to the podcast, which is very funny BTW, he'd already planned that out before he saw the BSG ep.

The Doctor is no longer humanities helper, he's our savior. I'm insulted.

I hated the climax with the floating, glowing doctor. It actually made me LOL! I liked other parts of it though, and I loved Jack as the Face of Boe. That made perfect sense to me once I thought back on the eps with Boe in them. I admired RD for being able to connect all those dots. I just wish he'd put some of that ability in coming up with a better way for the doctor to defeat the master. I'd rather have had the 4 chemical gun than what we ended up with. :(
I saw someone comment in another LJ about the podcast and Russell's explanation. It still doesn't set right we me. I don't understand how a writer, seeing his idea utilized be someone else, decides to do nothing when he had months to develop a Plan B. It still seems like lazy writing to me.

I agree with the chemical gun. That actually seemed somewhat plausible if both Torchwood and UNIT were working on a way to defeat a Time Lord. All thinking Doctor at the exact same moment (and, dude, what if people got time zones confused!) to empower him came off as silly.
It looked like the forgiving part was required to break the paradox (which took me a day to work out anyway!) but mostly I was just yelling "what?!!" at the tv screen and Andrew. I have some further thoughts but I plan to post them later in the week so I won't elaborate here. I just wanted to say that I thought the one year later was familiar and I've only just remembered - BSG?!
Oh, there was yelling and near throwing, but I don't think the computer could have survived the impact. I look forward to your thoughts. :)
Totally agree on your thoughts!

I didnt make the BSG link but now you mention it, I do. The Face of Boe/Jack thing is just Blargh and I hope its a red herring because that would just be...stupid.

Floaty glowy Dr WHO..bLARGH.

*zaps Russel T Davies with a Laser Screwdriver*
I think probing with the screwdriver would be more appropriate. ;)

I wish we had more information on the Boe reveal. It could be a joke or a huge retcon or RTD could claim he planned it all along.
I found Martha more likeable in this one than I have in pretty much all of the others. That was, of course, until she mentioned, yet again, that she loved the Doctor. Blegh. I am proud of her, however, for growing a pair and not going with the Doctor because she's tired of being second best. She wants to be with some who "sees her" ala cute sacrificial doctor man.

There were so many things I hated about this episode. The stupid deus ex machina ending, complete with glowy floaty WTF Doctor, the bad (and pointless) CGI, the squandered interestingness of Lucy (my theory was that she was the "mother" of the toclafane and we'd have a really interesting new enemy was ever so much more interesting IMHO). And of course, David Tennant as the eye candy factor was totally missing.

That being said, I didn't mind Jack as the Face of Boe. Nor did I completely hate Martha for a change, and feel she got a good character arc of getting over herself and getting out because she's not my girl Rose. I also liked the unintentional BSG shout-out as well as the Ming the Merciless ending with the Master. Also, while I didn't love the paradox, I did like the continuity/narrative economy of this all going back to Utopia.

But yeah, after 5 weeks of phenomenal episodes in a row after a very spotty beginning, I finally had high hopes for the series finale and was pretty disappointed overall.
I can't say I hated it with quite that much passion, but things started going badly awry with the CGI Doctor and they lost me completely with the floating and the glowing. God, that was bad. Really, really bad. Like, there are Doctor Who episodes from the 70s with monsters made out of lampshades and paperclips that managed to pull together a better story and more emotional resonance.

Why did the Master keep Martha's family alive? To humiliate them? To use them to get to Martha?

That ended up feeling like one of several potentially interesting threads that got completely dropped, like Lucy Saxon and her relationship with the Master, and Jack in his cage. The Master must have been doing those things for a reason, but we never got to see why, and seeing why might have given us a better insight into him, his relationship with the Doctor, and what it was like to live in that world for that missing year. It was just... I do not understand at least 75% of the writing choices in this episode. At all.
I almost said this was Painkiller Jane bad, but the acting was still better than that show.

I felt as if I was missing half an episode here. I'd criticize the BBC for not giving them an extra twenty minutes to flesh out the story, but I don't think Russell really cared about fleshing out the story.
I almost said this was Painkiller Jane bad, but the acting was still better than that show.

Let's not get too extreme!

I don't think the episode length was the issue, because I didn't see much sign that Davies actually was aware of half the stuff he was throwing up there and then dropping.
To be contrary to, like, the world, I found this ep highly enjoyable, but I'm such an irregular Who watcher I probably just don't know any better. ;-) But I had to say:

I'm growing quite tired of shows telling us we have to forgive. No, we really don't always have to.

YES. I'm not a fan of vengefulness, but the staple that you're only a good guy if you forgive the bad guy NO MATTER WHAT -- makes *me* rageful. :-)
Hey, I'm usually contrary to the world so I'm not criticizing. ;)

I'm not for vengeance either, but some situations to me are not forgivable and some people in those situations are not able to forgive. I don't think any less of them and I'm tired of shows telling us the *only* way to move on is through forgiveness. It's crap.