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Usually I'm happy when it's Friday

I've been discussing the latest LJ debacle on various other LJs. I'm just going to say this for now, I'm not outraged by what LJ did because when dealing with HP fandom and NC17 fic/art artists are treading a fine line (especially if the rumors of Warner Brothers being involved in this are true), but how LJ handled the matter leaves me shaking my head. WHEN will they learn? Just explain why you are doing this. After all, you do have legal grounds here. Sigh.

In more bad news, with a bit of good news thrown in. Courtesy of the Televisionary:

Paul Blackthorne has signed on to the ABC series 'Big Shots'. Which should make it pretty damn clear that The Dresden Files is over. :( First SG1, now 'Dresden', and soon(ish) BSG. SciFi is close to dead to me. Oh, the good news in this (for me) is that Michael Vartan stars in Big Shots so I'm looking forward to Harry and Vaughn interacting. ;)

FOX pushes 'New Amsterdam' to mid season. I was mostly looking forward to the show because of the lead actor, it might not be very good, but I get the feeling it's pretty much doomed now. Especially if it comes back to the schedule on Fridays. However, I'm happy that Bones is once again paired with House. They may be the last two scripted dramas standing at the rate FOX is going with the 'alternative' TV.
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    danceswithwords
    Paul Blackthorne has signed on to the ABC series 'Big Shots'. Which should make it pretty damn clear that The Dresden Files is over.

    BOO.

    Also, LJ needs to get some kind of public/community relations person stat.
    sdwolfpup
    LJ needs to get some kind of public/community relations person stat

    I think Rygel speaks for me.
    asta77
    Also, LJ needs to get some kind of public/community relations person stat.

    And that's the real problem here. Sorry folks, but I can't muster a lot of sympathy if on a (then) public community, someone finds a sexually suggestive drawing of a teenage Harry with forty something Snape, is outraged, and reports it to LJ abuse. That sort if imagery is offensive to people and LJ is within their right to remove the content/suspend people. But how they handle doing that sucks. Make an announcement, explain the process, and why you did what you did. Avoid the headaches!

    Plus, while we in fandom may understand these individuals mean no harm, people outside of fandom, casually perusing the internet, probably won't.
    nolivingman
    Plus, while we in fandom may understand these individuals mean no harm, people outside of fandom, casually perusing the internet, probably won't.

    Exactly. And while I personally find that image (and the idea of Snape/Harry) icksome (underage/overage *is* my squick), I understand the nature of fandom and what she meant in making it and the harmlessness of the intention. But I can't fault anybody outside of fandom for thinking it crosses the line, and wanting to see it not posted on a public LJ post.
    jo_lasalle
    I think it's not just the lack of explanation that's troubling. It's suspending people permanently with no warning, no option à la "take this down or else", and the fact that there seems to be nowhere to appeal (and no way to know that this wasn't the random decision of some single person who happened to be on duty when the report came in). I don't think LJ is evil for not wanting to host certain content, but this is all a bit dodgy and random, not to mention, again, shoddy customer relations.
    asta77
    I do think LJ needs a clearly defined process and one that includes a warning for first time offensives. Maybe a three strikes and then you're out policy? Granted, if actual child porn is being posted, the person's LJ should immediately be deleted. But when dealing with artistic creations based on fictional characters and the abuse team is fairly certain no harm was meant, people should be given time to make adjustments. But I have to say, I question the wisdom of fic, manips, drawings involving teen characters being posted on a public comm. You are bound to offend and get in trouble at some point.
    greycoupon
    Thanks for the comments on my post. You is are smart. :)

    Based on the email that the p_p mod posted, it was not a WB complaint but someone on LJ reported those two posts.

    I don't know. 6A/LJ seems determined to repeated shoot themselves in the foot with this stuff. They. Just. Keep. Doing. It. Wrong. They need a PR person like yesterday and their CEO needs to not post comments in fan journals. Ever.
    asta77
    I enjoyed the discussion. :) I'm just glad to see so many people realize that LJ is within their rights. It's just unfortunate that, even in the right, they can manage to make themselves look bad.
    hockeyvaughnfan
    Thanks for this news

    Whilst it's sad that there will be no more Dresden Files (boo!), I join in the yays! for having Vartan and Blackthorne in the same show - yet another reason I can't wait to see this show (whilst I obviously want the show to be good, the shallow part of me doesn't care so long as there's plenty of Vartan on my tv screen! *grins*)
    jonesiexxx
    Um. What happened on lj?

    I'm not sorry to see DF go. It was turning into Charmed. It could have been so much better.
    asta77
    Many shows have uneven first season and I thought TDF was improving as the season went on. I had hopes that everything would come together if given another season. It's just disheartening to me to see what SciFi is jettisoning and what we are getting in it's place.

    Did PK get renewed?!?!?
    dragonfly0303
    I was really enjoying TDF as the season went on. I kind of looked at it as taking place before the books. No chance then it could get picked up at a later date? Isn't Paul Blackthorne supposed to have a recurring role in Big Shots? So maybe it's not beyond the realm of possibility there can be a second season of TDF. I really enjoyed Claudia Black and her character, they had great chemistry and she was about a million times better than that actress who played Susan. Not that I'm a Susan fan in the books either.

    I've been kind of out of it...what are we getting in it's place?
    asta77
    Here's a well reasoned post explaining it.

    Short version is that two people have had their accounts suspended because they posted drawings of underage (in this country at least) Harry Potter characters in sexually explicit situations. LJ is well within their right to do that, but, once again, they handled how they did it badly.

    syliasyliasylia
    Boooooooo.... I really liked The Dresden Files series, and Paul Blackthorne was an excellent Harry Dresden in my opinion! On the other hand, now I have two BIG reasons to check oug Big Shots, despite not being interested in the plot of that show at all,
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