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The Other TV Shows I Watched

I realized Friday it was going to be impossible to post meta and discuss three shows over the weekend. It's too much! Luckily, Dollhouse has me only worried about posting about two shows now. ;) To be fair, it wasn’t as bad as I feared, but it wasn’t very good either. I was bored. The premise is murky and I failed to understand turning to people with implanted personalities for help when actual experienced and qualified people are available. But the big problem is the show’s star. As part of an ensemble, Eliza would probably be OK, she did a good job as Faith, but the girl can not carry a series. She doesn’t have the talent or, imho, the charisma to do it.

And, Joss, I know you are a fan of BSG, but please don’t continue hitting us over the head with references to the show. I didn’t like ‘Unfinished Business’ the first time and the shout out to Edward James Olmos was weird. You want to make the BSG fans happy? Give Tahmoh a bigger and better written part.


I was rather ‘meh’ on this episode. In fairness to the writers, they didn’t know they’d be on hiatus for two months and this would be the first episode back. And I never felt Sarah getting shot was that big of a cliffhanger. Her name is in the title; she’s not dying.

I’m torn on Kyle existing only in Sarah’s mind. It’s in keeping with the shows mythology, if you’ve seen the extended cut of T2. And it makes much more sense that he’s a hallucination rather than having actually traveled through time since, well, he’s already done that and is dead. But I keep thinking it would have been cool if they could have found a way to make it work and added Kyle to the mix and John had the opportunity to meet his father.

I’m predicting either Riley or Jesse will be dead by season’s end. And I’m a little disturbed that my first thought upon seeing Riley’s bandages was, “If you really wanted to kill yourself you would have cut with the vein.”

I suspected very early on that the sheriff (Conner Trineer! You finally got to appear in a quality sci-fi series!) was the doctor’s abuser. But I give the show credit for not portraying him as a clichéd villainous sheriff. He appears as to be the good guy, doing his job, trying to get to the bottom of what happened. It wasn’t until the very end that we see there is a whole other side to him.

John Henry now has access to Google the internet. That is very, very bad. As is his belief the human body is badly design. We are seeing the first seeds planted for the ‘Rise of the Machines’.

I am now wondering if John Henry might be the one to destroy Catherine. He didn’t seem pleased with the lack of answers he was getting from her. What if he develops his own vision of the future and it doesn’t mesh with hers?

And many, many years ago I was a huge Bryan Adams fan. So, now, anytime I hear “Everything I do, I do for you”, I cringe. To every writer out there, you need to retire the expression.


This morning, I discovered two cars in the parking lot of my apartment complex had their windows smashed. I’m assuming the car owners were dumb enough to leave something valuable in the cars. They were also dumb not to kick up a fuss about the light being out in their half of the carport for the past several months. Fortunately, my car was untouched. I guess the ice scraper and box of kleenex in plain site wasn’t very tempting. I left a message with on the complex's answering machine about what I found. I’m sure the car owners will be complaining tomorrow. And I tried to do my civic duty and call the police. After they transferred me to what I am sure was the wrong station, the person I spoke to told me the car owners had to call. Whatever. I tried.

Thank you to the anonymous person who gifted me with a heart! :)

And I’m sure there was something else I wanted to mention, but it’s escaping me.
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What was the UB shout-out? I missed it. And it reminds me of the Dick Wolf cabal's obsession, though I find that one funny. Aside from Jamie and Katee both starring in his production company's new series (and Katee and Trucco's guest-starring appearances), L&O:NY recently had a scene set at Galactica Bar, which ain't exactly a common pub name. And SVU recently had a character named Galen. I think his wife/girlfriend was Cally, but I might've hallucinated that. ;)

The UB shout out, at least I saw it that way, was the gratuitous boxing. At least it was edited better on BSG.

I too am amused, though thrilled by Dick's interest in the BSG cast. I feared that I'd have a lot of SciFI Saturday features in my future. ;)
The Dick Wolf thing is SO WEIRD to me because I feel like L&O and BSG could scarcely be more different in terms of the kinds of things they're trying to do with the medium. And it's not like Dick Wolf has pretensions of making brilliant, thinky television; he's proud of the fact that he's looking for the formula with the greatest mass appeal. So the idea that he's a secret BSG fan is a little mind-boggling!

But hey, whatever floats his boat! And I'm glad it means work for both Katee and Jamie.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was a bit meh about TSCC and especially about head!Kyle! I was feeling like the only person on the internet who was not Totally In Love with the idea. (By "the internet" I mean the three other people on my flist who have mentioned it...)

I get that it's continuity, especially with the T2 extended cut, and I get that there aren't other ways to dramatize what's going on in the head of someone as closed-off as Sarah, but I still find the head character to be something of a lazy writing device. And I was not at all taken with the guy they had playing Kyle.

Ah well. I certainly didn't hate the episode, and I actively liked the Ellison/John Henry/Catherine bits, and the Sarah and Derek was good, and I liked the doctor, and yeah. It was all good except head!Kyle, basically. But that was enough to make me disenchanted.
I think danceswithwords said it best when she said the actor playing Kyle is now Michael Biehn. ;) His acting wasn't terrible, but he looks as young, if not younger than John and it kind of weirded me out.

I understand what you are saying about head characters. I was rewatching the BSG mini series earlier today and it hit me that as much as I love Head Six, I'm not really missing her like other fans seem to be. And I think it's because I'm enjoying seeing Baltar develop as a character without her. We're seeing his choices now, not her telling him what to do. And it felt like we had that going on on TSCC. Sarah should have been able to will herself to move and to seek out a doctor and know how to manipulate her, but she had to have Kyle there to help her. I'm not buying that.
I think it made sense that Kyle was still that young in Sarah's head--he's unchanged from the first film, from the last time Sarah saw him--but yeah, he's no Michael Biehn.

As for head characters, to me it depends on what they're trying to do in terms of the plot. Farscape's Harvey had a definite plot purpose, quite separate from the dramatization of John's thoughts and feelings--and therefore I thought he worked splendidly. Head Six is a little more nebulous: sometimes she's just telling Baltar what to do, but she is more than simply a dramatization of his thoughts, so I can handle her better than I could, say, the hallucination of Adama's ex-wife in that awful episode. Because that served no purpose other than to fill in interior thoughts and feelings (although Bill Adama is so disconnected from his own thoughts and feelings that perhaps it does make a certain amount of sense that he would project them outwards like that; still, I was not a fan).

With Sarah and her hallucinated Kyle, I didn't think we were supposed to take this as something that Sarah wouldn't have been able to do on her own, but more as a way of dramatizing her thought processes in times like this. Maybe she talks to Kyle a lot when she's stressed out or trying to get through a hard decision? I took it as a way to show us what she was thinking and why she was doing what she was doing rather than as an attempt to say that she wouldn't or couldn't have handled this particular situation without Head Kyle.

But of course that's also exactly why I think it's sort of lazy writing: because there ought to be other ways to dramatize that sort of thing. Lena Headey is a good enough actress that she could show that process. I don't know. I'm of two minds about it. I'm coming around to the reasons it worked, but I really didn't like it in execution.
I agree that it made sense that Kyle looked young, it's just that he looked so young. He looks like a teenager and definitely not a guy that lived through a robot apocalypse.

Maybe she talks to Kyle a lot when she's stressed out or trying to get through a hard decision?

Which I could deal with if we had seen her do that before. I don't want Head Kyle hanging around like Harvey or Six, who are independent plot devices and serve a purpose to the story arc, but if we had caught a glimpse of him before then I could have more readily accepted him appearing here to 'help' Sarah through this period of great emotional stress.
I had such obscenely low expectations for Dollhouse, the show in general, as well as Eliza in particular, were better than I expected they would be, ie mediocre rather than embarrassingly horrid, lol. I'll give it a bit of time to find its sea legs, but I also know when to cut my losses. Oh, and I assume the boxing wasn't because of UB so much as Joss wanted eyecandy for the ladies and other men-lubbers, because it served for a rather weak metaphor for Paul's work ethic and cheapo character development, and because Tahmoh simply likes to box. But wordy mc word on the EJO call out. That was just...weird.

Sorry to hear you had neighbours with their windows smashed. Although I wouldn't automatically assume that the owners left something stupid within. A few years ago, every single car on my block, including my own, had their front and rear windshields bashed in in a random act of hate. The only thing of "value" in the car was Abbey's carseat and not a thing was burgled from my or any of my neighbour's cars. It was just random hateful asshattery. Needless to say, 2 months later we moved!
I'm not giving up on Dollhouse yet. I'd hate to give up after one episode only to learn via my Flist it got a lot better. But, I may not watch it live. Three hours of TV I have to think about is too much for a Friday night!

I'm assuming it's car owner stupidity because the last couple times this happened, the office posted notices in each building reminding tenants to not leave anything valuable in their cars. And out of twenty cars in the parking lot, only two were damaged.
You want to make the BSG fans happy? Give Tahmoh a bigger and better written part.

From your keyboard to Joss' ears.

And I’m a little disturbed that my first thought upon seeing Riley’s bandages was, “If you really wanted to kill yourself you would have cut with the vein.”

Hee! Yeah, I was thinking, "Down, not across."

What if he develops his own vision of the future and it doesn’t mesh with hers?

I could definitely see him being the one to take her down.
Hee! Yeah, I was thinking, "Down, not across."

Thank you! I'm not the only twisted person here. ;)
To be fair, it wasn’t as bad as I feared, but it wasn’t very good either. I was bored
Exactly my thoughts.

Eliza would probably be OK, she did a good job as Faith, but the girl can not carry a series. She doesn’t have the talent or, imho, the charisma to do it.
I'd say she can't carry a drama - let her kick someone's ass and she'll be great :) I thunk the story they chose for the pilot wasn't right to introduce her as main character.

You want to make the BSG fans happy? Give Tahmoh a bigger and better written part.
Oh, yes! And i'm not a big fan of Tahmoh but i'd prefer to see him actually doing something cos in the pilot he was like decor.
I've never felt Tahmoh was one of the strongest actors on BSG, but he's definitely better then the material he was given to work with here. And you want to let him show off his boxing talent, fine, do it later, not in the pilot because you are establishing him as nothing more than eye candy. :/
Totally agree. I'm ok with him in BSG cos it's strong writing there for everyone so he looks great too. But i don't get his character in DH - i expect from the pilot to introduce all main characters not just show them on ring...
The premise is murky and I failed to understand turning to people with implanted personalities for help when actual experienced and qualified people are available.

My thoughts exactly.
My problem with Dollhouse stems from the fact that the whole thing felt like a giant Ode to Eliza's body. And what squicks me even more is knowing she had a lot of say in it all. Narcissistic much? It looked like Eliza's demo-reel to me. I'm hoping in the next few episodes, we'll learn more about the REST of the cast. If they make this more of an ensemble show, I think it could be good. But if it continues to be the ED show, I might have to stop watching before I vomit.

As far as hiring dolls instead of professionals -- I think it's because these rich, secretive people don't want red tape; they don't want legal channels; they want the fastest, easiest solution without any strings. Even if they hired a "real" negotiator, there'd be paper, there'd be history, and SOMEONE, some company, would know. I could see the "need" for the dolls - I just wish they didn't make ED look so stupid in her librarian garb.

I see it as an ED version of Charmed -- any excuse to put ED in sexy outfits and they'll take it.
I just wish they didn't make ED look so stupid in her librarian garb

As I've said before - this oufit and her acting looked like a scene from a porn movie to me. Only without the actual porn.
And what squicks me even more is knowing she had a lot of say in it all.

Maybe it's a sign she realizes how little talent she has. Even more offensive then her role in the show was her role (as well as Summer's) in the FOX promos. Are network execs still ignorant to the fact that women like science fiction and that Joss's previous shows had a huge female following?
But I give the show credit for not portraying him as a clichéd villainous sheriff. He appears as to be the good guy, doing his job, trying to get to the bottom of what happened. It wasn’t until the very end that we see there is a whole other side to him.

The two things aren't mutually exclusive; people who are abusive to romantic partners are often successful achievers in other aspects of their life. I like that the show got that, because without an iota of exposition or background, it emphasized how difficult it would be for the doctor to press a formal case against him, and made more sense of her sudden violence.

The premise is murky and I failed to understand turning to people with implanted personalities for help when actual experienced and qualified people are available.

That seems to be a stumbling point for a lot of people. How odd!
Oh, I know the two aren't mutually exclusive. It's just that often shows feel if they are depicting a character who is a womanizer, drug addict, alcoholic or abuser then they also have to show they are incompetent or a failure in their professional life as well - which we all know is not necessarily the case.