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The Other TV I Watch

I finally had to admit to myself that until BSG ends it's run, I will not be able to give deep thoughts to any other series. This mostly affects my posting on TSCC which I feel deserves meta, but I just don't have the energy for it right now. However, a few brief thoughts.


So, Riley is finally dead. I assumed either she or Jesse would be killed off. I still don't think Jesse is safe, but she'll be with us awhile longer. When the time comes, my bet is Derek will be the one to kill her.

I am glad to see he is sensing something is up with her. Not only was she being evasive about the date of her judgment day, she was criticizing his relationship with John and Sarah. Really not a smart move to bad mouth the woman Kyle loved and his son considering how close Derek was to his brother.

I can't say I'm sorry to see Riley gone, the character never developed beyond a plot device, but her discovery that she was being set up to be killed did make me feel for her. She was taken from one horror story and thrown into another. And while Jesse always struck me as cold, I didn't think she was that cold.

I doubt Cameron killed that second bird (And, if she did, isn't that how sociopaths start out? Killing small animals?), but I understand John's reaction. Especially since Cameron believes she is incapable of being fixed. They can keep troubleshooting and rewiring and swapping out parts, but, like any computer, one day in just doesn't work anymore.

It's interesting that Cameron only creates one kill switch - or button in this case. Shouldn't Sarah and Derek also have the capability to destroy her if the need arises? Or does she know they would air on the side of caution if they had any doubts? It might be too human of Cameron, but I believe she wants to live. But she also doesn't want to defeat her mission, have John to die, and allow the apocalypse to happen.

And I FINALLY watched the most recent episode of Law & Order: UK:


By the second episode I thought I'd be past being distracted by how awesome Jamie looks. I was wrong. And, this week, in addition to the pretty, we had flirting! First with the former gang member and then with Alesha. I don't wish to ship Matt with anyone, but I fully support seeing him shamelessly flirt every week. Jamie is just so adorable doing it.

And I really, really appreciate getting to see a different side to Jamie. L&O isn't really lighter material, but it's given him the opportunity to show facets of personality we haven't seen with his other characters. While we've seen Lee Adama be a dork on occasion and Archie Kennedy laugh a few times, both those characters were in the midst of fighting a war and hoping to live to see another day. Matt obviously has baggage, but his life isn't in constant jeopardy and he has the time to crack some jokes and miss an easy three pointer. ;)

I support introducing backstory on the characters, but I wish, at this stage, they had hinted at Matt's abuse as a child rather than have him make a direct statement about it. I liked Matt's comment to the teacher about children wearing baggy clothes to cover up abuse. It was subtle and you just knew he was talking from experience. So, later, stating to Ronnie that he's close to the case because of what he went through as a child felt heavy handed to me, in the sense that the writers weren't giving the audience enough credit to know he was sharing a personal revelation earlier.

The pacing of the episode seemed much better than the premiere. Not only was I able to follow the investigation at all stages, I could understand what they were saying. :) But I do feel that the writing on the 'Order' side needs to be stronger. In the U.S. version there is some suspense as the trial unfolds and, here, it seemed clear what was going to happen as soon as the trial began.

And what happened to the wigs??? Are they optional? Or after viewing the pilot did the studio say, 'Lose them. We'll never sell this to an American audience otherwise.' ;)
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I'm really enjoying "Sarah Connor Chronicles" as well, but I don't feel I have a lot to say beyond "awesome expansion of the franchise" and "great use of the genre to explore these characters". I really love the concept of Cameron slowly going wrong. I love that John has her kill switch.
I found I had much more to say about the show when it was the only genre show I cared about airing. But right now my weekend is consumed by BSG and during the week I seldom have energy to think much about anything after work. I do really appreciate how they managed to take what were essentially effects driven movies and make the story so cerebral.
It's interesting that Cameron only creates one kill switch - or button in this case.

I don't think this invalidates your theory about Cameron wanting to live--I agree about that, and isn't that how Skynet got started in the first place, machines wanting to live and seeing humans as a threat?--but I figured she gave the switch to John because she ultimately answers to him. She takes orders from Sarah, and from Derek to a lesser extent (if Derek were to trust her enough to give her orders), but primarily because John told her to. So it made sense to me that she just gave him the switch, because he's her focus and her ultimate concern/responsibility. Everyone else is secondary. Or at least that's how I interpret it.
I agree, John is her main focus. Occasionally, I wonder if he's her focus in more ways than one. ;) But what if John is injured or in the shower and he can't reach the button! To me it would be logical to have a backup, but Sarah and Derek are more trigger happy so I could certainly understand her only making one device.
I have to admit, I hadn't noticed the missing wigs; I was probably thinking something along the lines of "surely this is an insane defence they couldn't get away with and can there be more Matt flirting with Freema please?" As you can tell, I'm an intelligent, discerning observer :P They've actually changed a number of things about the typical British courtroom to make it more visually arresting and to allow a US audience to relate to it; you'd never have the public gallery down at ground level, for example.

From the way L&O:UK is being pushed over here, it looks like they're trying to pull in a range of viewers. In terms of the Coronation Street watching audience, the details about Matt's childhood were remarkably subtle. After all, this was episode two, and nobody's discovered that they're married to their sister, gay and adopted.

I've discovered that the Sky TV free magazine I've been ignoring for the last two weeks has a two-page article on L&O:UK, sadly without quotes or an interview of Jamie but with a photograph of them shooting that includes a view of Jamie from the back, wearing a blue striped shirt and looking thoughtful. Would you like my copy? I'm unlikely to keep it myself...

ETA: What on Earth happened to my ability to type? I think it's time for another mug of tea.

Edited at 2009-03-09 07:54 am (UTC)
I was wondering if the public gallery had been moved over the years. I know in older British films or films set in Britain the public was seated on the upper level. It's interesting that they could be making so many concessions to an audience that isn't even scheduled to see the series right now.

Coronation Street reminds me of the now canceled U.S. soap, Passions. I never watched it, but I recall reading about one storyline in which in which a brother and sister were having a baby together and another that involved a gender switch and son/daughter trying to seduce his/her father.

Sure, I'll take the Sky TV article. Just add it to the pile. ;)
The changes made to the courtroom setting don't actually have anything to with the possibility of it being shown in the US - sorry *grins*

According to the set designer it's actually due to the more mundane issue of camera angles. Both the public gallery and the dock have been moved for that reason.
Ah, that makes sense. And now I recall reading something about the courtroom set being constructed.
Heh, I totally missed the lack of wigs cause I'm so used to American tv!! And I didn't get what Matt was alluding to when he made the baggy clothes and close to the case comments. I am a Dime Bar. Hopefully I'll get better at this reviewing lark...

Oh, and definitely more interaction between Matt and Alesha please!!
I didn't notice the lack of wigs immediately because the focus was on the female defense attorney/barrister and I thought perhaps women were exempt from having to wear them. But then when I saw the prosecution wigless I went, "Hey!". I am in now way maligning the British system of justice, but the wigs seem so silly to me. Maybe our attorneys are just too vein to cover up their expensive haircuts. ;)

If it makes you feel better, I was almost too distracted by the pretty to pay attention to what Jamie was saying. ;)
The wigs thing is very silly and I can't help thinking that we'd take the courts more seriously if we got rid of such an archaic tradition. But we're so steeped in history that most stick-in-the-muds won't change it. And yes, the women have to wear them too!

Actually, for a while I was mixed up because it was a case involving children and I tend to run straight down the Judging Amy route, but then I remembered that this was Britain and that there were people in the (wrongly-placed, yes) public gallery!

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I actually did think that Cameron killed the bird; that was how she knew she was still broken (when John asked her if she was fixed and she said "no" and made the kill switch). And that dead bird, and Cameron's complicity in it, is what I think will make John suspicious that she also killed Riley.

I couldn't tell at the end if it was going to be Riley or Jesse who got it, but I figured Riley wasn't too long for the world given the way things were happening to her and she kept getting buffeted about. I really did not like her when they first introduced her, so I have to give them credit for making me feel sorry for her these last couple of episodes.
See, I read the scene as John thought Cameron was responsible for the birds death because of her concerns that she is irreversibly broken. But either way it plants the seed for her being responsible for Riley's death.
I'm watching episode 3 of L&O:UK and the fact the wigs are back made me suddenly have a Eureka! moment and I realised why they were missing last week - it was because of the boy.

One of the ways they try and make court less intimidating, scary etc for youngsters who appear before the court (either as a witness or the defendant) is to do stuff like get rid of the wigs.
I agree with sdwolfpup's take that she did kill the second bird, and it was a decision again, and that's why she thinks she's still broken.

It's interesting that Cameron only creates one kill switch - or button in this case. Shouldn't Sarah and Derek also have the capability to destroy her if the need arises?

Cameron has always treated John as the decision-maker; all of the authority Sarah and Derek have over her derives from John. I'd have been shocked if she had given Sarah or Derek another kill switch; I'm not sure I'd use the word "trust," exactly, to describe what Cameron feels, but I think she definitely thinks John should be the one to make the call.

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Edited at 2009-03-09 09:54 pm (UTC)