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The Week in Review

It's been a week since my last post. Miss me? ;) I took a few days of LJ down time after BSG finale weekend. The sheer volume of discussion became draining. Though whether you loved or hated it, I find the discussion it's created fascinating. I still have few discussions bookmarked to catch up on. I'll probably do another post myself down the road after rewatching 'Daybreak' and, hopefully, after I'm able to make all the thoughts swimming in my head coherent to me. I have several contradicting feelings right now. I also have podcasts to listen to and a fic to begin.

I feel I need to mention the fic to motivate myself (or have you all motivate me) to start typing up the damn thing. beccatoria has been my sounding board the last couple weeks. This is an idea I've had since 'Crossroads' (yes, that long). I was beating myself up for procrastinating on starting it, but now I believe the long wait has worked to my advantage. I've gone from fretting how I would deal with certain aspects of the story, and not knowing how or where to end it, to conceiving it as a revisionist version of Season 4. But it's also a little scary to go from what I conceived as just a Lee/Laura fic to something a little more gen.

I've also caught up on quite the backlog of TV this week.


I like the characters, but the writing continues to be problematic. If the original L&O's intent was to mimic a docudrama, the UK version tends to veer towards melodrama. In 'Unsafe', if the murderer, Luke Slade, had had a mustache I would have expected to see him twirl it. And James Steel, as the lead prosecutor, becomes far too emotionally involved in his cases.

Most of the significant problems seem to take place on the courtroom side of things. I know every TV series and film that has a courtroom setting takes some liberties as to how a case would actually unfold. Real court cases lack drama. But LOUK is pushing the bounds of believability. In 'Bureid', I was waiting for someone to raise an objection, repeatedly. Both Steel and the defense attorney were presenting their arguments and not asking a single question. Or maybe this is acceptable in a UK court? And, in the US, once a defendant starts to confess on the stand the judge would call for a recess.

Other than that, I don't have much to say about the series. Jamie continues to look amazing and I'll watch as long as he is part of the series.


Another show I wouldn't be watching if not for the lead. I love Rick Castle. The character has been developed far more and far better than I hoped. I love his relationship with Alexis. I love that Alexis is a good kid. Not every teen is drinking, doing drugs, and having sex. And I really love that she wanted her dad to chaperon her trip. That sort of blew my mind. But it's clear that she adores her dad and wants to spend time with him, which is cool. (While I admire Alexis's portrayal, overall, her teary confession about jumping a turnstile was ridiculous.)

I'm enjoying the pop culture references. How many shows would use Highlander as a comparison? Of course, with Rob Bowman of X-Files fame as one of the people behind the show, it makes sense to me.

What I do have problems with is the procedural stuff. Castle isn't just observing, he's interrogating suspects. A mystery writer eliciting a confession from a teenager is NOT going to hold up in court. Especially with the high priced attorneys the boy's family will be hiring. Rick and Kate should not have been so proud of themselves.

There were also far too many turns in the case. I suspect the writers thought they were being clever with all the changes in course during the investigation, but I just found it confusing and a sign that the detectives weren't all that good at their jobs. And if the mystery writer wasn't around, would the wrong guy have gone to jail for life?


Maybe there are some interesting ideas being presented by Joss. For instance, Paul turns out to be no better than the people he is trying to take down. All he has is a picture and a name, but he's fallen for Caroline, or, more precisely, the Caroline he has created in his imagination. Problem is, he doesn't see it, not even when the obviousness of it is pointed out to him. I thought I could like Paul, but he's as unlikable as the rest of the characters to me now. In fact, every single character elicits from me either feelings of apathy or loathing.

And as I commented to danceswithwords, I can't recall ever watching a TV show that made me physically ill. I was already having trouble dealing with a series that is based on characters being violated both physically and psychologically each week in the performance of their jobs. Now, we find out that while inactive Sierra is being raped. Considering she has the mind of a six year old, it makes it all the more abhorrent. I know some will argue that we are supposed to be horrified, we're suppose to think about the implications, but I didn't see the point of any of it other than to tell us the evil business is really evil. Sierra gets her mind wiped further and the man who raped her is killed, not because of his guilt, but because he was interfering with the business.

There may be some grand labyrinthine plot that will turn out to be fabulous, but I think Joss has reached a point where he believes he's more clever than he actually is. Mellie's reveal as an active was guessed by numerous people after the first episode. And, oh, gee, she was made into the person Paul wanted her to be/needed her to be and Paul didn't know how close he really was to the Dollhouse! And the mole inside the Dollhouse would appear to be Amy Acker's character, but we'll probably find out it's the skeevy Topher and the skeeviness is all an act.

Yeah, I'm done with the show.


John's reveal that he discovered long ago Riley was not who she claimed to be, knew of her connection to Jesse, and Jesse's connection to Derek puts a whole new spin on almost all of the season. As does his killing that man at the end of last season. John Connor is not a boy any more, he's a man. More significantly, he's John Connor of the future. John's coming to trust Cameron, the machine, as much, if not more so, than his friends and family. He carries a gun. He's making the call as to whether someone will live or die. And, in Jesse's case, he allows her to live as a punishment. She destroyed a part of herself in the process of destroying Riley and is left with the knowledge that her plan would have failed even if had come to fruition.

I can't say I was anymore sympathetic to Jesse after 'The Last Voyage', but I certainly understood her motivations better. She not only felt a sense of personal betrayal by John, she truly believed he was becoming more and more a servant to the machines. Who was listening to who? John didn't even seem to be allowing for direct contact with the people he was supposedly trying to save. And why would he seek out an alliance with the liquid metal, a seemingly indestructible machine? Jesse, like so many others, had put her faith in John Connor, a man who seemed to be losing his humanity.

I'm not convinced that Jesse merely wanted to eliminate Cameron. I think she wanted Cameron out of the way so she could take out John herself. End the war now as she told Derek, believing John was not to be their savior in the future.

I suspect Jesse isn't dead. If only because Derek didn't have adequate time to get rid of a body.

I'm not entirely sure how to read Derek's comment to Jesse that she was not the person he loved. Does he believe the timeline has been altered so much that Jesse that came back in time was not the Jesse he knew? Or that what happened to her after he was sent back changed her from the person he knew? Or that he really never knew her at all? Or maybe it doesn't matter, the point is the Jesse he loved is dead and gone to him.

Cameron continues to have a unique way of extrapolating human behavior and trying to form connections. She tells Derek about the child he lost, believing it will provide greater understanding to him as to what Sarah is feeling. I'm not sure if John died he'd feel the loss any less profoundly than Sarah would. Even John expresses to Jesse that they are the only two people Derek feels he has in the world. But Cameron's reveal does have the unexpected consequence of bringing Derek closer to her. Derek sees that on some level Cameron understands the importance of family and how the news would affect him. He even goes so far to thank her for telling him. Derek thanked her. That is huge.

A short time later, when she rescues Derek and receives some unexpressed gratitude for doing so, she reveals yet another bombshell. She feared he would reveal John's location under torture, Derek states that would never happen, but Cameron tells him that it has before. Something did happen in the basement that Derek is completely unaware of.

It would seem we now have two groups or individuals John and Co. need to worry about. John Henry has a 'brother' who already seems to be out in the world via the internet. It is the creation of Myles Dyson. But is it a continuation of a program developed before his death or did he survive the explosion and has he been working on rebuilding Skynet, perhaps willing, perhaps unwillingly, all these years? The fact they are using a photo of a recognizable actor makes me believe we'll be seeing Myles in the flesh before season's end.

And is Catherine possibly the escaped liquid metal we saw? Or was it carrying a message from Catherine? Did John try to reach out to her/it because of knowledge of what it managed to accomplish in the past? Is Catherine a creation of Skynet that traveled back in time to create her own empire and liquid metal terminators to defeat Skynet? Does John reach out to her because they share a mutual enemy?


I think I may be done with this show. The writers have been dumbing down Dani all season and it hit a low at the end of this episode. After weeks spent with the FBI (if it was even the FBI) who were attempting to get her to turn against Charlie, she believed they would take her refusal so easily and reassign her to another job in a matter of hours? And she actually got into a black van with a bunch of men dressed in black suits who she had never met before? I understand the need to accommodate Sarah Shahi's pregnancy, but the only solution the writers could come up with is for her to be kidnapped? To become a victim???

Add to to the mix a poorly conceived and extremely uninteresting new partner and the Ted subplot that was ridiculous on so many levels and I'm just paralyzed with not caring.

I decided to give Kings another shot last Sunday after being lukewarm on the pilot. I did find myself enjoying it more, but it struck me one problem I'm having with the series is the actor who plays David. He's not terrible, but I don't find him particularly interesting and considering he's pivotal to the story that's an issue.

A couple of links:

Several days ago, Ron Moore responded to some questions posed by the fans at the SciFi Forum. I hear the thread has gotten rather long now, but I believe the pertinent stuff is only on the first three or four pages. If you are still rageful about the finale, you may not wish to read his thoughts. Even I found some of his answers frustrating. But apparently my interpretation of Lee's scenes was pretty dead on. ;)

And Jamie appeared on Sky 1's Soccer Am yesterday morning. He didn't talk about the finale and, oddly, the show played a clip from 'The Captain's Hand', but between the 4 and 5 minute mark he does take some shots at Dirk Benedict which I'm sure some of you will enjoy seeing. :) The direct link is HERE.
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I'm enjoying Castle for the same reasons, Asta. Love Rick Castle, and the relationship between father and daughter. We so rarely see a really close, loving father/daughter relationship between a dad and teen. Being a huge mystery fan, I liked the concept of the show in theory. However while I should be outraged at some of the things they've done between the detectives and what Rick gets away with, I've let it slide. Primarily because of Rick, Rick and Alexis, and even Rick and his crazy mother. I love Susan Sullivan. While I enjoy Rick's banter with everyone, they could get rid of the female detective and I wouldn't mind. Of course that's not going to happen....but I wish it would. lol

I agree Alexis teary confession was ridiculous, but I laughed. She reminded me of Rory Gilmore from Gilmore Girl's. I have higher hopes for Alexis she doesn't make as many stupid mistakes as Rory, though. lol
I'm still waiting to warm to Kate (the female detective). I don't dislike her, but I'm finding her acting not up to par with others on the show. And the attempt to make her look sexy in the last episode was rather laughable. The bizarre hair and hideous, retro hot pink dress didn't help.
Thanks you so for the link to the Jamie interview. I needed a dose of light-hearted Jamie right about now :)

I've been reading along with your reviews on "Dollhouse" and I'm kind of relieved that I don't even have to contemplate giving it a chance. I've felt all along that the premise was very odd (to be kind) and judging from what you have to say... It really was a bad idea!
I know people who love Dollhouse and I can't say it's the worst show I've ever seen, (after all, I saw an episode of Flash Gordon) but it makes me far too uncomfortable to try to comprehend whatever it is Joss is trying to say. Exploring concepts of identity and the evils of power and money is great, but don't wrap that up in a story where women are being raped physically and psychologically each week. Ack.
Your dissatisfactions with L&O, LIFE, and DOLLHOUSE are pretty much mine, yet I'm sticking with them all, probably mostly because I just … like to watch TV.
L&O, of course, I will stick with. ;) I like to watch TV too which would explain why I tune into The Mentalist even though the plots are becoming more WTF? each week. But Simon is pretty and the show doesn't make me physically ill so I count it as a winner.
I haven't tried The Mentalist. I may get around to it eventually but meanwhile it seemed skippable.
I missed you :)

Even after I posted to your LJ that I wouldn't, I gave Dhouse my final hurrah. I thought, okay, I even gave Veronica Mars more than one chance and I disliked that show with a passion. So, yeah, my final consensus is that yes, it was better. But for me, it's like, well it began as a stinky pile of poo. Just cause it got less stinky doesn't change the fact that it's poo, you know?

And I agree with you about the concept just not being something I *want* to stomach. Look, I've watched a lot of disturbing TV. I regularly rooted for a serial killer and will continue to do so. But just because the show is telling us we're supposed to be bothered, we're supposed to be horrified about these violations, and root for that system to be taken down, but in the process of rooting for it, you'll see people(not just women) be repeatedly violated, degraded, and objectified. Yay? Yeah, there's nothing there enough for me to care about to endure that. Maybe if there was more, maybe if I liked the characters or actors or much of anything, but I don't. So, yeah. Also, the big ol' Echo brawl? Been there, Buffy did that and did it better. Dushku remains a giant gaping, limited hole of an actress.

I like that I keep hearing generally positive stuff about Castle and the consensus being, yeah, it's not a great show, but it's cute and entertaining and you just like Nathan Fillion's character. I still have yet to watch it. I have all the eps DVR'd and yet, yeah, still haven't watched it. I think part of me is scared that I'll dislike it. I really don't want to have more TV to bitch about. I'm kinda all stocked up in that regard here.
Thanks. :)

Just cause it got less stinky doesn't change the fact that it's poo, you know?

Hee! I like the way you summed up the situation. ;) I could actually deal with Dollhouse not being particularly good. I've sat through plenty of mediocre television because I liked a particular aspect of the story or there was an actor I liked starring in it. But the show was actually making me ill! I just can't deal with the women being brutalized 24/7. And I have yet to figure out why the dolls have to have the mind of six year olds when they are 'inactive'? I suppose it's because if they had the mind of someone their own age than they would question what was going on and after one mission decide they want out...and I really can't think about this or I'll get upset again.

Dushku remains a giant gaping, limited hole of an actress.

There's that too!

I have yet to see anyone say they hate Castle. I'd definitely recommend giving it a try. It's a fun show and if you can handwave the implausible investigative process you probably won't find anything to bitch about. ;)
I haven't seen the latest TSCC yet but I do really agree about how interesting the revelation that John knew about Riley is. And while I agree, the episodes don't make me side with Jesse, I continue to love her complexity and the amount of space the show leaves for the feelings of, well, a crazy murderess.

I think that Derek was telling himself that this Jesse wasn't his Jesse because he needed to believe it. The changing timelines provided a convenient psychological crutch there.

I gave up on Dollhouse after the first episode. I mean, if people suddenly tell me it's become AMAAAZING, I might go back to it, but Kev and I were supremely unimpressed with the pilot. It's all very well to say, "We're doing this to be edgy, you're supposed to be uncomfortable!" but if there's no further payoff or discussion; if it's being gross and dodgy as a means to itself... What's the message there? Or the point? That's just an excuse to do dodgy gross shit.


Also, GEN TYPE FIC ABOUT AN ALTERNATE S4 WITH NAKED LEE AND LAURA? YES PLEASE. And never stop bouncing ideas off of me. ;)
I think Derek is actually pretty good at reading people. You would have to be to survive in the world he grew up in. He doesn't want to face that the woman he loved fooled him so, yes, it's easier to say "You're not the person I loved." But I wonder if this is going to harden him even more? He trusted Jesse and she used and betrayed him. How does that affect any relationships he could potentially develop in the future?
No to keep kicking a dead horse, but in this week's episode of Dollhouse, some of the actives remember themselves. Should be interesting. Maybe this is the 'turning point' people were referring to?

When Echo, Sierra and Victor awaken in the Dollhouse with most of their original personalities and memories intact, Echo leads the charge to free the Actives from their apparent captivity and escape the Dollhouse forever. Meanwhile, Ballard discovers the Dollhouse is closer than he thinks.
Sorry, I'm done with the show. Unless the remembering is permanent and most of the cast dies and Joss reboots the show I'm not risking another upset stomach.
It just occurred to me that you haven't seen last week's - you're talking about the week before. Last week's episode was actually very good. Lots of viewers compared it to Band Candy and there were a lot of similarities. We got to see interesting personalities come out (we also learned more about echo/caroline's history) and Joss brought back the sorely-needed funny. There were a bunch of those awesome one-liners. If you can catch a bit of it on hulu or fox or something, I think you should. I can't say for certain that this week will bring a reset - but there's a decent chance. Last week's was exponentially better than the week before and I expect the same of this week.
Very personal reaction
I finally watched the BSG finale last night. And then read your posts on it.

I had similar feelings to the ones I had after the finale of Buffy and Deep Space Nine. and this is about me, not the shows.

A profound sense of loss.

For all the shows didn't have in common, one thing they did was a profound, complex, felt sense of community. when the communities parted, reconfigured, suffered death and departure and loss... well it just crushed me.

So not much sleep last night.
Re: Very personal reaction
I'm hopeful the BSG community isn't going anywhere for awhile. It's funny, with so many people being less than happy with the finale, I thought they'd just quit talking about the show and move. Instead, there has been a tremendous amount of discussion and people talking about vids and fic and you name it. Maybe Ron did the community a favor by creating such a polarizing finale.
Re: Very personal reaction
We're talking about two different things, I think - a result of me not being clear enough.

I'm not talking about the fandom community (the only fandom I was ever really part of was Buffy). I'm talking about the on-air community within the universe of the show. I hate Sam and Laura dying and Starbuck evanescing and Galen choosing a Fortress of Solitude and Adama doing Gods Know What. I get how some of that was necessary. But it just hurts me to see the core group eviscerated.

There were definitely luminous things - which you pointed out: Helo/Boomer/Hera, the scene with Doc Cottle and Laura (sublime), and Lee's exuberance at discovering the possibilities of an unshackled life. And I too am rooting for Lee and the nurse. :D

But, still, I mourn for the missing.

(I didn't see the point of most of the flashbacks. I felt they were time wasters, but my only serious intellectual complaint with the finale is: the Matrix reset button of it all, and the 'ooh humans are aggressive and exploitive, ooh bad humans!'that "necessitates" the reset. I found the treatment of that in the finale reductive and trite... Disappointing for a show that mainly managed to be layered and deep. I'm left feeling unsure if I believe the show's philosophical underpinnings are problematic or if it was just a craptastic way of wrapping them up in the finale.)
I'm not sure if I like Rick Castle so much or that I love Nathan Fillion more than potato chips. He's so damn charming that even through the TV I want to giggle and rub up against him like a cat. I am aware this is odd, but I'm also very hopped up on various drugs that I think are interacting in strange ways. The show is okay, but as long as NF's there and it's not Desperate Housewives, I'm not going anywhere.

Jamie Bamber is much more tolerable as a British cop than an American spaceman. Dollhouse is crap and I don't watch any of those other shows.

And now I'm exhausted and need a nap.
I was iffy on Rick in the pilot, but since they've toned down some of his outrageous behavior and developed a strong relationship with his daughter I genuinely like the guy. But, yeah, I'm sure Nathan plays a part in that. ;)

You are watching L&O:UK? MUWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

Feel better!