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King Arthur - Wait For the DVD

Having seen both Starship Troopers and Battlefield Earth I can attest that this movie is not that bad. OK, nothing is *that* bad. :p

King Arthur was actually OK, just nothing spectacular. The story is not the traditional legend, but set during the Dark Ages as Rome is pulling it's troops out of Britain. I didn't have any problem with that, it's just that the film never seemed to pick up momentum and go anywhere.

Non-spoilery problems I had with the film:

- Gweneviere and the near imperceptible characater development. I can't even blame Keira Knightley for me not caring about her, even a great actress would have had nothing to work with.

- No chemistry between Keira and Clive Owen (Arthur). On the other hand Arthur and Lancelot (Ioan Gruffudd) have a *lot* of chemistry. Fifteen years fighting side by side, away from home for long periods of time..yeah, I'm sure nothing happened. ;)

- Stellan Skarsgard as the evil Saxon leader...borrrrr-innngg.

- The last thirty minutes dragged. I'm calling it 'The Battle That Wouldn't End'. You pretty much know how the film is going to end, so just end it already!

One big saving grace for me was Ioan Gruffudd. I've seen him on other productions, but this is the first time he really held my attention. He was terrific as Lancelot (and hot! ;) and I feel that this could be a break through role for him. It helps that, unlike other productions, Lancelot is a very flawed character, more selfish than I expected him to be. Then again, I like my heros flawed. ;)

Here endeth my save your eight bucks public service announcement. :)
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Somehow, I've managed to avoid seeing Battlefield Earth all these years, which is a good thing because Starship Troopers almost broke me. That was a bad, bad movie.

As for King Arthur, I did mostly like Keira Knightly, but then that's predictable because I always like the female warrior characters. And I agree that none of the characters had any real development.

On the other hand Arthur and Lancelot (Ioan Gruffudd) have a *lot* of chemistry. Fifteen years fighting side by side, away from home for long periods of time..yeah, I'm sure nothing happened. ;)


Heeheehee! And here I thought you were anti-slash. ;) That line Lancelot had about disapproving of anything that kept men on their knees seemed like a slap in the face of slashers everywhere, though. Or, I guess, a challenge to them.

Stellan Skarsgard as the evil Saxon leader...borrrrr-innngg.

The friend I went with wanted to know why he sounded like he was in a Western instead of in a medieval epic. The scene where he thumped himself on the chest after meeting Arthur was hysterically bad.

The last thirty minutes dragged. I'm calling it 'The Battle That Wouldn't End'. You pretty much know how the film is going to end, so just end it already!

I thought that scene would never end. Possibly the most boring battle scene ever.

which is a good thing because Starship Troopers almost broke me.

Oh, God, yes. My friend Stacey and I still talk about that experience at least once a year and we're still pointing fingers at each other as to whose idea it was. On the plus side, we totally Mystery Science Theatred it in the theatre and no one said a word to us!

For the record I did NOT see BE in a theatre. I caught it on TV to see if it was as bad as people said it was. It was.

And here I thought you were anti-slash. ;)

I'm finding giving the right coupling my resolve wavers. ;)

That line Lancelot had about disapproving of anything that kept men on their knees seemed like a slap in the face of slashers everywhere, though.

You picked up on that line too! I strated laughing when I heard it, but apparently I was the only one in the theatre who found it funny. ;p

Possibly the most boring battle scene ever.

Maybe at the end of the year we should have the first ever LJ Movie Awards - selecting the best and the worst of the year. I think we already have one 'winner'. :)


My friend Stacey and I still talk about that experience at least once a year and we're still pointing fingers at each other as to whose idea it was.

Sadly, I saw it alone, so I have only myself to blame.

You picked up on that line too! I strated laughing when I heard it, but apparently I was the only one in the theatre who found it funny. ;p


I think that a consequence of being in fandom is that you pick up on all the slashy subtext, whether you want to or not. ;)
Glad to hear about my Ioan :) I've loved him since he was in the Hornblower movies on A&E, and wondering when he was going to get a movie role that would give him more exposure. I'm also glad that his Lancelot is flawed, as he is in all the stories, and I was always disappointed in the portrayals in other movies.

From what I've read they are trying to adhere to what they feel is the historically accurate story of the real Arthur (a 6th century ruler of Britain) and not the French romances that were written in the 1400's. I think it will be a matter of whether or not people will accept the radically different interpretation. I do want to see it on the big screen.
The movie begins with a brief explaination that it's the syory of the supposedly real Arthur who lived during the 6th century. I'm sure a few people might have a problem with this interpretation, but I doubt most will. The era in which the film is set is not the problem, pacing and a pretty thin story are.
The era in which the film is set is not the problem, pacing and a pretty thin story are.

Mr. Bruckheimer should have spent a little extra money on an historian, it seems :) There are several scholarly books on the subject, plus maybe the screenwriters should have shown a little orginality rather than copy Braveheart.
Starship Troopers is probably the worst movie ever made. But that's what you get if you combine fascism, nazi-aesthetics and bugs in a movie. I still remember the weird vagina-like masterbug with horror.
Starship Troopers is probably the worst movie ever made.

It's a tough call between it and 'Battlefield Earth'. And while the nazi-aesthetic is scary so is John Travolta in platform boots and dreadlocks. :(

I still remember the weird vagina-like masterbug with horror.

Oh, gee, thanks, I'd forgotten all about that. :p
Here endeth my save your eight bucks public service announcement. :)

Thanks as it's closer to nine here. I'm afraid Lynn is going to talk me in to seeing this because of Ioan;) so I'll be pitching the afternoon showing . it's half the price. I like Ioan but also think Clive is a hottie, so any chance I'll be distracted by him?

As for Starship Troopers, I'll take your word it's godawful as extreme hatred of bugs kept me away after I saw the previews. The noseplug look of Battlefield Earth kept me away from that one. So I'm shallow and all about the looks. It saved me.
I like Ioan but also think Clive is a hottie, so any chance I'll be distracted by him?

They both looked good in the flim. I'd been impressed by some of Clive's previous work so I wasn't surprised that he turned in a good performance. I've only seen one Hornblower movie and everything else I've seen Ioan in was pretty lightweight. I never realized he could have such dark intensity and screen presence before.
Ah, but Battlefield Earth is in the category of being so godawful that it's actually kind of fascinating. Like Showgirls, but not Gigli.

You only pay eight bucks to see a movie? It's $9.50 or $10 here, depending on where you go.
Battlefield Earth did make me laugh, I'll give it credit for that. ;)

I don't go to evening shows that much but I believe they run between $8 and $8.50 here. Matinees can be anywhere from $5 for the first show of the day up to $6.50.
Awwww, but I liked Starship Troopers. It was so very, very bad that I actually found it entertaining in a giggle till you can giggle no more kinda way.

Damn shame about King Arthur. Guess they used all the good parts in the promo, huh?
My friends and I were laughing pretty much throughout Starship Troopers. I really thought we were going to be asked to leave the theatre. But, no one complained about our behavior. Maybe they were too busy trying to stifle their own laughter. ;)

One of the best bits in King Arthur couldn't make it into the promos here. I don't think it will ruin anything if I tell you. As the Saxon troops are approaching the heros, Lancelot looks at Gweneviere and makes a comment about thousands of lonely men. To which Gwen replies, "Don't worry, I won't let them rape *you*". That got a laugh in the theatre. :)
Aww, I was really looking forward to seeing this movie as I love the Arthur story and wouldn't mind seeing the less romanticised version. It's a shame it's plot lite, but I may still go see it as even in the evenings it's only £5.80 at my local cinema :p :p

I'm glad they're portraying Lancelot correctly as he did steal Guinevere from Arthur in the end didn't he? He wasn't that noble!

And as for the end of year movie awards I'm going to hold you to that...
You've confirmed my suspicions that King Arthur wasn't going to be too heavy on plot. That's a shame but not really a surprise. I suppose I'll wait for the DVD although the hotness of the male cast does make encourage an earlier viewing. No, I'll be strong. The DVD it is.

Also, I think an annual LJ movie awards is an excellent idea. We should start organizing right away.
Starship Troopers
You're not alone OneTwoMany. I actually liked Starship Troopers. I considered it a live action cartoon. When it came to TV I even watched it again.

I admit it is bad. But as OneTwoMany said, it was so bad it was good.